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We found our chair.

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Markus, you are here.

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The chair for this session is Markus

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Hedorfer, and the floor is Good afternoon.

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Yes, it's again a pleasure to be
here again to chair this session.

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I immediately invite the first speaker.

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Okay.

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I'm going to talk about
urban design and placemaking.

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This actually fits quite well in the theme
of many of the talks

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we heard this morning.

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I'm from Sasaki.

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How does this work?

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Why is it not?

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I'm from a firm called Sasaki,
We're based in Boston.

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Sesaake was founded

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by this fellow, Hedeas Sasaki, in 1953.

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He was the Chair of the Department
of Landscape at Harvard University,

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and he found the firm in the spirit
of an interdisciplinary

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firm, one of the first interdisciplinary
firms in the world,

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where he brought together planners,
urban designers, landscape architects,

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architects, all working together to solve

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complex problems in the postwar era.

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We're based in Saisaki, in Boston, and our
office is in that building over there.

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We work across the US
and around the world.

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The core disciplines are landscape.

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This is a project in Shanghai that we did.

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Ecology, really important in our work.

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We're working in Athens
at the Alana Khan Park,

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one of the largest new parks in Europe.

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We do architecture.

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This is a new student
hub building at Lima.

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Every aspect of architectural exploration,

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very people-centred, very much

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focused on how people use buildings.

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That project came of an urban design
project, a campus plan in this case,

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and of course, interiors.

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This is my city.

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That's our office by the red arrow.

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The one thing about this image is
that it's the perfect

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example of the integration of landscape,
of urban design, planning, architecture.

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The urban design framework
is so powerful in this image.

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I'll talk about a few
big themes in our work.

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The framework is very
different to a master plan.

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This is about the core armature
of a place, the big moves,

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the public realm, about mobility, about
sustainability at the planning at a strong

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level, and it's about flexibility.

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Urban design is regeneration,
so very broad.

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It's about climate change,
it's about resilience, sustainability,

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the 15-minute city, Brownfields,
working within existing cities.

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Urban design is weave and repair.

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It's about working with existing places,
improving them, refining them,

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connections,
integration, careful knitting, and using

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urban design to improve existing places.

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It was mentioned We're familiar
today about infrastructure.

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How do you harness infrastructure
investments to build a better

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city and a better quality of life?

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Beyond just solving technical problems,
can infrastructure be

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beautiful and inspiring.

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And urban design and technology.

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The smart city is more than technology.

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Smart cities need smart design.

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You've got to learn from history,
learn the lessons of the past.

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Technology is to support
life, not to control it.

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Part of our investigations in technology,
we We've developed a tool to measure

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carbon in every level of our work,

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from planning to construction.

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And urban design
and the engagement process.

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Engagement is not a service.

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It's a continuous process.

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It's about listening, it's about debating,
it's about being empathetic.

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And a particular interest of ours,

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the innovation ecosystem, spontaneity,

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proximity, connection, and the unplanned.

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I'm going to talk about a few projects.

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Here's an infrastructure project
in Chicago, the famous Loop, the River.

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If you look at the river's edge,
there are no people there.

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It's empty, unused.

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This is what it was like.

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Chicago is built on multiple levels.

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You couldn't access this.

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But all over the world,
people want to get to water.

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We transformed this area.

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You can see between the bridges,
just dominated by cars.

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We created a big idea
to create a series of rooms,

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each room having a different theme
and connected under the bridges

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to make a continuous public realm.

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Each room had a different emphasis,

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but unified by this big idea.

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We went from this
to the exact same place is that.

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All constructed from the Riverside
on barges, and the city continues

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But now the cars have less emphasis.

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It's all about people and how people use
the city, access the city,

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and making a great new public realm
at the river's edge.

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Thinking about the details, urban design,
infrastructure, and detail,

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how people relate to the water,
relate to each other,

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and allow for different conditions
to occur, whether you're at a table

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with friends,
looking at the view, walking, or just

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contemplating the river flow.

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It was very carefully planned to generate
revenue to use the space underneath

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the street for restaurants and bars
and entertainment and other uses so that

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they could get income to manage the place.

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So whether it's a Sunday morning
with very few people or a St.

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Patrick's Day where they start to
turn the river green

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and attract a big crowd,
or whether you're watching kayakers

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come by sitting at the edge,

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engaging with the river, engaging with

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people, and connecting these all under
the bridges in a continuous pathway.

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Here, a group of Sunday morning kayakers
gather as they begin to

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explore the Chicago River.

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You can see how these level changes work

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to support ideas of resilience.

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This was the site,
just a A month or so after it opened,

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there was a catastrophic flood.

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But the inundation worked with all

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the careful level changes changes

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and the interior was preserved,
and within a few days, the water had

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receded and we were back to normal.

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Here you can see how this planning
for resilience also works for human

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appreciation of the open setting.

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Day and night,
the place changes completely.

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The next room is really a theater,

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a stepped ramp that allows people

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to almost like an outdoor theater,
just experience

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the river in a whole different way
and get up to the street in a continuous

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ramp or in a series of stepped seats.

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You can imagine performances in a barge on
the river and the audience exploring that.

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Moving to the next room, a series of piers
made of constructed wetlands

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and peers for fishing, for hanging out,
and for engaging

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with the river at At an even more intimate
level,

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allowing people to learn and understand
how wetlands work in this condition.

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Then at different times of the day
or different occasions,

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people gather at the peers
and have a whole different experience.

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I found this beautiful image of a winter
scene where the ice flow on the river was

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breaking up, and it just reminded me
of the little piers and the geometry,

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working with artists and lighting effects.

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The result is this amazing transformation

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of a piece of the city using an investment

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around infrastructure and landscape.

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Of course, this unbelievable
urban setting, theatrical event.

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The next place is really about
regeneration, and I was

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inspired by the ship yards here.

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This is in Portland, Oregon, a site owned
by a family for more than 100 years.

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They used to make barges here.

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You can see this cable car comes from a
big medical center on top of the hill.

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You can see on the right,
they're building towers,

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a lot of residential towers,
but there's no heart to that community.

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All these industrial uses
blocked access to the river.

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This was an opportunity to make
a heart for this community.

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You can see this big shed that remains.

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All the others were torn
down before we got there.

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A difficult site, but a great opportunity.

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We convinced the client in the city
to keep the shed

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and integrate it into our design.

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First idea,
bring the green of the mountaintop

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to the river's edge and create a linear
pedestrian spine along the edge.

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To then use that green as green
fingers to come into the district.

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So extend the river,
the experience of the river,

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into the community and make the density
away from the river's edge.

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Here you see that
big shed integrated into the plan and

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these green spines, each one different.

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Here's the framework plan
meant to evolve over time, but you can

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see it's structured by the public realm.

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What's in the pink blocks
It can evolve over time.

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It can change depending
on the market forces.

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This is a mixed-use district.

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The road network, the public realm, and

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the parcel definition are

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what I call the open framework.

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The ground floor,
critical, the mix of uses.

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What is the experience
at the ground floor?

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Whether it's retail, restaurants,
whether it's hotel, residential,

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the parking is hidden behind buildings.

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This is a critical aspect
of planning an urban design

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to create a great new district.

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Here you see a scenario of what
the building

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layout could be on the blocks,
all taking advantage of the views,

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the shed, frames a critical
part of the new public realm.

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The tram arrives in a plaza.

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Here you see the shed transformed

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into this vive of activity, commercial,

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restaurants, maker spaces, incubators,
and then new residential at

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the parcels nearby.

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Using the shed and the infrastructure
of the industrial lands

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to create this amazing new public space.

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The tram arrives in this new Plaza,
so it can have different experiences

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depending on the day
of the week, the seasons.

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You got to think about
summer, winter here.

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From an urban design point of view,
we learned lessons from what was going on

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just to the south, which is do not
build a wall of towers along the edge.

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That's very tempting for developers,
but it's bad for urban design.

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We put the taller buildings up against
the highway, and everyone gets

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to participate in a view of the river.

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The next space over, quieter,
more residential,

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a different experience completely,
but very much public and accessible.

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During the process,
our client was approached by a baseball

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team, confidentially, to see,
could we make an urban baseball park here?

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We tested within our framework plan
how that would work.

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We found the plan resilient enough
to allow for such a thing to happen.

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Imagine 20,000
There's incredibly good transit

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all around that's already in place.

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Could have been interesting,
but the current plan remained.

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This project is in Toronto,
Mississippi, next to Toronto.

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It's a Brownfield site.

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This is a coal-fired power plant
that was torn down about 15 years ago.

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This one It's inaccessible land became

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open for development to allow for bringing

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the city of Mississauga to the lake,
to the waterfront, and creating

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a whole new public realm for the city.

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This is it with early infrastructure
under construction now.

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Here you see that with the potential,
if you look at the yellow dots,

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to make this continuous public realm
all the way to downtown Toronto

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and to connect back into this booming
part of Metropolitan Toronto,

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take advantage of the transit, which is in
pink dashes,

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a very intensive engagement process
throughout the development of the plan.

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Here you see that idea
of making a whole array of new

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public spaces right at the water.

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That becomes a destination
for everyone in the city

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and the Metropolitan region,
and then to connect back to the transit

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system and to create a series of distinct

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public spaces throughout the new district.

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Here is that framework plan with a green
park going deep into the site.

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In purple, you see a work environment
and innovation district with

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a sustainability center,
district energy, vacuum waste,

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and a town square right at the Lake Edge
from the main entry

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going up to the transit.

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This fabric of a grid-like fabric creates

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opportunities for development that It

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reinforces this urban design framework.

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This is a very similar
urban design strategy to what we saw this

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morning of this loose grid,
but very clearly shaping public space.

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This public space is for everyone.

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It's not gated, it's not controlled,

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and it has great diversity and variety.

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From the new park at the Lake,
which was once totally dominated

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by industry and the power plant,
completely inaccessible, now all about

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people and their experience of the Lake.

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Thinking about density, again,
avoiding a wall of towers along the edge,

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but rather thinking of drawing them back
deep into the site because you got to have

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density here to make the economics work

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and to make the investment work here.

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But the experience at eye level
or from your apartment is even though

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you're two and a half blocks away
from the lake,

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you feel like you're living by the water
through the urban design strategy

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of public realm.

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Transit comes in and the density is most

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intense around the transit line

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and gives access to a mixed-use
district center of restaurants,

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retail, and cultural uses.

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The urban edge facing the Lake

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is all about different mobility options,

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bikes, transit.

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The car is really played down.

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A very active urban front
with a lot of activity on the ground level

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to animate that street, cultural building
in the distance right on the water.

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Lakeview Square is where a lot
of different uses come together

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besides residential, a hotel, Artscape,
which is a cultural center,

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another cultural center below,
steps down to the lake and this new

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plaza with its Here you see that.

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We don't emphasize
the architectural design.

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This is about urban design.

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The architecture comes later.

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But we have an attitude about
architecture, defining public space,

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stepping back towers, and making
a public realm that can be used

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in different ways,
whether it's just a weekday

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or a Saturday afternoon event
where you close the street.

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How to think of it, at different seasons,
Mississauga is a very diverse community,

00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:46.360
and people from all over
the world come there.

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Here is Diwali for the Indian community,
a celebration in the square,

00:22:53.280 --> 00:22:55.200
looking out at the water.

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Or a Saturday evening in autumn When

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the weather's good and people are out.

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Or wintertime, ice sculptures.

00:23:10.760 --> 00:23:16.400
Or a summer day
where families gather here.

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All the same place.

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The Innovation district,
which is working with employment uses,

00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:30.280
jobs, job creation, a great place because
there's so much residential,

00:23:30.360 --> 00:23:33.760
so much investment in public spaces.

00:23:33.840 --> 00:23:39.440
There's huge value
of all these things coming together.

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Right next to the square is Artscape and

00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:47.480
other cultural uses, artists housing,

00:23:47.560 --> 00:23:53.160
and a series of workplace buildings

00:23:53.520 --> 00:23:57.520
with incubators and other

00:23:57.600 --> 00:23:59.520
forward-looking companies.

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This street, this spine,
is the glue that holds

00:24:07.600 --> 00:24:15.160
these different uses together, culminating
in this cultural center at the tip.

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Here you see that range of mixed uses.

00:24:18.840 --> 00:24:22.040
There's a school in the middle.

00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:28.800
You see this idea of the street as
the unifying element with a sustainability

00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:32.560
center in a prominent location.

00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.680
That could have been hidden in a back
area, but we wanted to make

00:24:36.760 --> 00:24:39.040
a place where people could meet.

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Think about summer-winter in Canada.

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It can be quite extreme
Here, the sustainability center

00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:52.480
becomes like a community center.

00:24:52.560 --> 00:25:00.080
It's not only for district energy,
potentially vacuum waste, but it's about

00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:04.640
A learning place for students,
for people who live here,

00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:11.800
people who visit, and then the workplaces
take advantage of the amazing location.

00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:19.200
You have these big ideas of public realm,
of green, of streets and blocks,

00:25:19.280 --> 00:25:24.640
all knitted together to make
a mixed-use urban district.

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This is all under development.

00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:34.200
There's a whole second array of buildings
facing a linear canal,

00:25:34.280 --> 00:25:37.120
which used to be used for bringing
in coal,

00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:43.320
and that allows people away
from the waterfront to still experience

00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.160
that waterfront setting.

00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:49.760
Of course, again, we need to think
about it at different times of year.

00:25:49.840 --> 00:25:57.920
When it freezes over, it becomes a linear
skating rink, café, pavilions in the park.

00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:02.840
Different kinds of density here
townhouses along a linear park.

00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:07.480
Of course, from a sustainability point
of view, we think about stormwater

00:26:07.560 --> 00:26:13.000
management, how water works

00:26:13.280 --> 00:26:16.680
to capture rainwater, to treat it before

00:26:16.760 --> 00:26:22.240
it pollutes the lake and the water table.

00:26:22.320 --> 00:26:28.000
Also thinking about energy targets,
drilling into it in more detail.

00:26:28.080 --> 00:26:32.480
And so this mixed-use community
sits on the lake,

00:26:32.560 --> 00:26:40.160
making all these new public spaces
and bringing the city to the waterfront.

00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:45.400
The last project I'll show is really about
the innovation ecosystem

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This example is about a university in

00:26:51.560 --> 00:26:55.120
Monterey, Mexico, one of the

00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.000
great dynamic cities in Mexico.

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This is about how you bring people
together, how you harness the power

00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.840
of an institution, of a university.

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What happens next to universities?

00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:13.000
How do universities engage with the city

00:27:13.080 --> 00:27:17.800
and create economic activity,

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intellectual activity.

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Monterey has this campus,
which we did a plan for.

00:27:28.080 --> 00:27:31.840
But next to the campus,
all these empty lands.

00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:37.000
That's where most of the pink is
that I'm going to talk about.

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It was founded in 1947 by an
engineer who studied at MIT.

00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:48.480
They built this university
into the MIT of Latin America.

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It's really one of the best
in all of Latin America.

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It's a bit of an oasis in the city.

00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.080
You can see that academic
core in the middle.

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But look at that sea of parking,
these leftover empty spaces,

00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:11.880
very low density, unused
housing just to the north of the campus.

00:28:12.800 --> 00:28:17.960
We used a web-based tool called MyCampus

00:28:18.040 --> 00:28:21.440
to allow people to tell

00:28:21.520 --> 00:28:23.600
us how they use the place.

00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:29.000
Thousands of people filled out
maps and gave us information

00:28:29.080 --> 00:28:30.960
of how they use the place.

00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:37.000
You can see that faculty
park in the garage, go around the campus,

00:28:37.080 --> 00:28:40.040
and never go into the community.

00:28:40.560 --> 00:28:46.800
Students a bit more
willing to explore But still not much

00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:53.120
engagement with the community,
dominated by cars and

00:28:53.600 --> 00:28:57.880
people's concerns about unsafe areas.

00:28:58.120 --> 00:29:04.280
Our idea was to this framework
that knitted the existing community

00:29:04.360 --> 00:29:12.160
with the heart of the campus and created
a series of new districts at the edges.

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:18.080
Monterey was very driven
by an interest in academics.

00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:24.640
Through our work, they became interested
in this innovation ecosystem of

00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:31.520
partnerships, of entrepreneurship,
and working with with companies,

00:29:31.600 --> 00:29:36.280
institutions, entities
who want to take advantage

00:29:36.360 --> 00:29:41.960
of the opportunity to be near
an academic call like this.

00:29:42.040 --> 00:29:47.920
Bringing together all these different
entities to build on that academic

00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.520
strength of the campus.

00:29:50.600 --> 00:29:57.440
This site, really hardly used.

00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.760
Those buildings are empty.

00:29:59.840 --> 00:30:06.360
That tower is used for offices,
but a lot of parking and leftover space.

00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:13.720
We worked with the university to create
a powerful vision for a mixed-use district

00:30:13.800 --> 00:30:19.000
at its heart, an innovation hub,
a building that would bring together

00:30:19.080 --> 00:30:24.080
the activities of the university and the
activities of

00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:29.720
the world of entrepreneurship
and business and research.

00:30:29.800 --> 00:30:33.520
That That would become the heart
of this new district.

00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:40.760
The first building, they called them the
ships as this metaphor for exploration.

00:30:40.840 --> 00:30:42.920
The first building

00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:49.640
is the blue ship which is now being built.

00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:54.080
Here you see that array of uses,
much higher density.

00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.640
There's now transit coming next to this.

00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:01.120
You don't have to worry about how
students flow because they

00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.880
aren't classrooms in these buildings.

00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:09.520
We think about the urban form,
how you define a new public space where

00:31:09.600 --> 00:31:13.120
it all comes together, facing the street.

00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.840
The ground floor, again, critical.

00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.720
The experience at street level,
at eye level.

00:31:19.800 --> 00:31:22.960
How will you experience the area?

00:31:23.040 --> 00:31:26.280
How do you connect it up
to the street system,

00:31:26.360 --> 00:31:30.560
to the university, to the neighborhoods?

00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.880
How do you create
a whole new sense of place?

00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:40.760
You have that historic building
representing the 20th century and the new

00:31:40.840 --> 00:31:43.560
innovation hub, the 21st century.

00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:47.880
They all come together
in this new public realm.

00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:52.320
This new building on the bottom
there is called Expedition.

00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:57.680
This building
we designed to relate directly

00:31:57.760 --> 00:32:00.720
to the public space, to become part

00:32:00.800 --> 00:32:06.880
of this new eco-innovation district.

00:32:07.080 --> 00:32:12.920
Sustainability, critical at every level,
from planning, urban design,

00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.280
landscape, and architecture.

00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.480
Transit coming right next to it.

00:32:19.560 --> 00:32:21.960
This is our building design.

00:32:22.040 --> 00:32:24.360
These are the uses
that are in this building.

00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:29.880
You can see very dynamic, very different
from a typical academic building.

00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:31.000
The view from the campus.

00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:36.520
You can see the new public space
in front of it at every level,

00:32:36.600 --> 00:32:39.400
gathering places, social spaces.

00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:46.720
Here you see how that relates
in the new district next to the campus.

00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:53.760
The Innovation Hub is really thought
of as architecture as urban design.

00:32:53.840 --> 00:33:01.520
It's meant to welcome you
into its interior from this new public How

00:33:01.600 --> 00:33:07.440
do you make a building that has a
civic grandeour to attract people?

00:33:07.520 --> 00:33:12.040
This is the latest version
that is now under construction.

00:33:12.120 --> 00:33:14.960
Solar Roof.

00:33:15.040 --> 00:33:18.560
Very dynamic interior meant to draw people

00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:23.400
in, have them connect back

00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.520
to the campus and the city.

00:33:25.600 --> 00:33:30.840
This is a series of maker
spaces on the other side.

00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:36.440
New public space for events,
for activities, outdoor lectures

00:33:36.520 --> 00:33:42.120
meant to allow people who aren't even
related to the university to explore it.

00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:48.360
This is a rendering just completed
last week of the latest work.

00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:53.640
That building, well under construction,
and this is about six months ago,

00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:58.720
December second, I'm going
for the opening of that building.

00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:02.160
All

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.400
of this really helped to regenerate

00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.800
the neighborhoods, bring investment
into the neighborhoods.

00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:17.720
The university engaged with the community
and created neighborhood committees,

00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.840
improved public spaces,
created employment,

00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:28.320
new businesses supported,
and now almost a billion dollars

00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.920
of private investment
by many other people.

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:36.760
The university, the Innovation district,

00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:41.440
totally integrated into the city.

00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.400
Thank you.

00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.480
It was very inspiring.

00:34:47.560 --> 00:34:52.400
You had also the ability to immediately
answer all the questions

00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:54.440
that I had in mind.

00:34:54.520 --> 00:35:01.080
Immediately 10 seconds after you
answered the That's my question.

00:35:01.160 --> 00:35:05.560
The only thing I wonder is,
here in Europe,

00:35:05.640 --> 00:35:11.160
many countries have quite rigid planning
systems with often very

00:35:11.240 --> 00:35:13.400
rigid planning instruments.

00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:18.280
I wonder how we could achieve it

00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:23.440
to translate to our European

00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:25.000
systems this approach.

00:35:25.080 --> 00:35:26.560
I like it very much.

00:35:26.640 --> 00:35:28.880
I think it is very positive.

00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.600
Also that interdisciplinary
approach is very important.

00:35:32.680 --> 00:35:37.320
We, as the ECTP, CEO, always say this.

00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.880
We have written it in several documents
that the interdisciplinary approach

00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.680
in planning is extremely important.

00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:51.320
Seeing that it's also for this urban
design sector.

00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:55.600
I think from the outcomes from this
project, we see it very clearly

00:35:55.680 --> 00:36:03.600
that the interdisciplinary approach is
really for the success of these projects.

00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:09.120
I wonder how we could
achieve it, make it done also with our

00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:14.560
rigid planning instruments here we
have in some of our European countries.

00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:20.640
Italy is one of these countries
who has very rigid tools.

00:36:20.720 --> 00:36:27.080
I think we must
explore this argument in the future.

00:36:27.160 --> 00:36:33.400
Now I give the floor
to Professor Khalid Eladli, who is

00:36:34.080 --> 00:36:36.520
talking about unlocking the past.

00:36:36.600 --> 00:36:40.600
I am also curious to listen to his
intervention, to his contribution.

00:36:40.680 --> 00:36:44.280
Thank you.

00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.560
Thank you, Markus.

00:36:52.560 --> 00:36:55.440
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

00:36:56.360 --> 00:37:01.640
I know you must be very tired and wanting
to go to sleep after a very nice lunch.

00:37:01.720 --> 00:37:07.760
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank
my colleague, Pyotr Lawrence,

00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:13.240
and of course, the University of Gdańsk
and the city of Gdańsk for having

00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.920
us here today, and for this intriguing
opportunity to be part of this

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:24.840
very interesting debate about
the city and how it relates to the

00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:26.880
metropolis and architecture.

00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.480
I think one of the major issues when we
talk about metropolis and architecture

00:37:29.560 --> 00:37:34.960
architecture is whether we should have
a regional approach

00:37:35.040 --> 00:37:38.520
to architecture in the metropolis or not.

00:37:38.600 --> 00:37:43.320
In any case,
this afternoon, I'll be sharing with you

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:48.320
my experience about the city of Giza.

00:37:48.560 --> 00:37:53.280
For those of you who do not know Giza,
and I think most of you won't,

00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.880
and why Giza,
Giza happens to be part of the greater

00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:03.280
Cairo region, and it's about a population
of about nine million people.

00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.040
It extends for about 450 kilometers.

00:38:06.120 --> 00:38:09.080
You can imagine how big the governor is.

00:38:09.160 --> 00:38:14.000
The city itself,
unfortunately, is impoverished.

00:38:14.080 --> 00:38:19.560
The reason for that is, we will see here,
many issues and challenges

00:38:19.640 --> 00:38:20.760
facing the city.

00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:25.680
Yet
one of the issues that we really have

00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:31.280
to consider is
why the city of Kiza is important.

00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.760
Now, the city of Kiza has
a number of celebrated

00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.040
culture and natural heritage.

00:38:40.120 --> 00:38:45.520
One is the River Nile, which happens
to be the longest river in the world.

00:38:45.600 --> 00:38:50.160
The second is the Pyramids,
the great Pyramids of Egypt.

00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:56.400
Yet, even though it has all these
heritage sites,

00:38:56.600 --> 00:38:58.720
the city is very impoverished.

00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:04.640
In about Ten years ago, or less actually,
I was asked by the President to come

00:39:04.720 --> 00:39:07.400
on board as the governor of Giza.

00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.120
I was very, very reluctant
because I'm not a politician.

00:39:12.200 --> 00:39:16.040
But I think my wife
wanted to get rid of me.

00:39:16.120 --> 00:39:21.160
She was pushing me to take
the position and stay away from home.

00:39:21.240 --> 00:39:27.840
Anyway, after two or three months
of debates, I accepted to come on board.

00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:33.480
The Prime Minister convinced me that
I have free hand to do what I want.

00:39:33.560 --> 00:39:37.160
There's no restrictions on what
I can do and what I cannot do.

00:39:37.240 --> 00:39:40.240
I said, Okay, I'll take the challenge,
and maybe this could be an opportunity

00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:45.000
for me to make a difference
in being who I am as an urbanist and a

00:39:45.080 --> 00:39:49.000
practicing urbanist and academic as well.

00:39:49.680 --> 00:39:55.520
Today, I'll be talking to you about
how we can reconcile the past,

00:39:55.600 --> 00:40:01.880
which is very rich in Giza,
with the present and the future urbanism

00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.240
in Giza, and how we can actually connect

00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.880
the city to its heritage and to both the

00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.520
culture heritage and the natural heritage.

00:40:21.720 --> 00:40:22.960
Okay.

00:40:24.160 --> 00:40:27.880
Cities over the world are facing numerous
challenges, and Cairo is no different.

00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.120
Greater Cairo is no different.

00:40:30.200 --> 00:40:34.480
Greater Cairo region was actually,
in the early 20th century,

00:40:34.560 --> 00:40:37.960
considered one of the most elegant cities
in the world,

00:40:38.040 --> 00:40:40.760
and it actually was competing
with New York, London, and Paris,

00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:44.720
receiving first prizes in many
cases as the most elegant city.

00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:49.080
Yet,
since this video here shows you the growth

00:40:49.160 --> 00:40:55.040
of the city of Cairo
since the 1800s to 2000.

00:40:55.120 --> 00:41:00.080
This just tells you
the city was growing normally.

00:41:00.160 --> 00:41:04.080
We were talking this morning about rapid
urbanization and the impact

00:41:04.160 --> 00:41:06.040
it has on development.

00:41:06.120 --> 00:41:11.000
Now, you will see that until the 1970s,
early '80s, the city was growing normally.

00:41:11.080 --> 00:41:14.600
But now watch what's happening now.

00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.240
You can see how the city developed.

00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:25.520
This has had a major impact on heritage
sites as well as natural

00:41:25.600 --> 00:41:29.520
cultural heritage as well.

00:41:32.640 --> 00:41:39.600
One
of the issues that we face in Egypt,

00:41:39.680 --> 00:41:45.320
and specifically in Cairo,
is the fact that the city, like many other

00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:48.480
global cities, faces numerous challenges.

00:41:48.560 --> 00:41:52.680
Among them is the rapid urbanization,
not to mention issues regarding

00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:56.320
cuts in budget and so many other
issues like climate change and so on.

00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:01.240
However, today we'll be concentrating
on the impact of

00:42:01.560 --> 00:42:03.360
rapid urbanization on the city.

00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:09.280
Now, about 43% of the Egyptians live in,
and we have about 107 million

00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:16.200
in the population, live in cities,
and 56% of them are confined to

00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:19.120
two major Metropolitan cities.

00:42:19.200 --> 00:42:22.080
That's the city of Cairo,
Metropolitan Cairo,

00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:24.080
Greater Cairo region, and Alexandria.

00:42:24.160 --> 00:42:27.640
You can imagine the population
load and its impact.

00:42:27.720 --> 00:42:32.520
Now, unfortunately, urban planning
The infrastructure and, of course,

00:42:32.600 --> 00:42:37.840
service delivery was not, over the years,
capable to maintain and cope

00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.240
with this development.

00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.000
I'm sorry, I'm having some problems.

00:42:46.080 --> 00:42:52.520
Anyway,
as a result, Giza, the city of Giza,

00:42:52.600 --> 00:42:58.440
and again, the city of Giza sits
on the west shore of the Nile,

00:42:58.520 --> 00:43:01.640
just across from the city of Kari, It's
actually part of the greater Cairo region.

00:43:01.720 --> 00:43:04.040
However, it sits on the west.

00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:07.000
What has happened is you can see
the environmental conditions,

00:43:07.080 --> 00:43:09.480
you can see the pressure.

00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:20.000
This is actually a It was originally
a a lake, a small water channel,

00:43:20.080 --> 00:43:22.480
but it has been a dump area.

00:43:22.560 --> 00:43:23.440
You can see the congestion.

00:43:23.520 --> 00:43:27.080
This is nothing compared
to real congestion you find.

00:43:27.160 --> 00:43:32.480
You can see that the impact that it has
had on destruction of the natural habitat.

00:43:32.560 --> 00:43:36.840
We have lost agricultural land and natural
habitats to construction

00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.120
and urban development.

00:43:39.200 --> 00:43:47.120
And of course, the enrogement of informal
housing and planned

00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:52.120
projects close to the heritage sites.

00:43:56.240 --> 00:43:59.200
Yet,
we must understand that mobilizing

00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.960
and protecting safeguarding the natural
and cultural heritage

00:44:03.040 --> 00:44:05.320
stimulates socioeconomic development.

00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:09.280
This had actually been

00:44:11.240 --> 00:44:13.960
approved or a major goal

00:44:14.040 --> 00:44:16.400
of the Sustainable Development Goals.

00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:22.080
The Sustainable Development Goal 11,
one of its targets is to maintain

00:44:22.160 --> 00:44:26.040
world culture and natural heritage.

00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:34.480
When I came on board As governor,
we decided to work to develop the city

00:44:34.560 --> 00:44:39.840
of Giza,
putting a development plan for the city as

00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.200
a strategic development plan for the city
over the coming seven to eight years

00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.200
to develop the city into something totally
different, a city that's more

00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.560
pedestrian-oriented,
a city that's more green,

00:44:51.640 --> 00:44:54.240
that's resilient, and that is sustainable.

00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.440
Now, to do that, we had three major goals,
and I always use these three terms,

00:44:59.520 --> 00:45:01.000
a city A city that's connected.

00:45:01.080 --> 00:45:04.000
When we talk about connected here,
we talk about connected to people,

00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:06.760
connected to nature,
connected to heritage,

00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:11.880
connected to culture,
connected to technology, connected to the

00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.280
world, and a city that's competitive.

00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:19.360
Here, it's competitive locally,
it's competitive at the regional scale

00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:25.680
and at the global scale,
and a city that is actually attractive.

00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.880
Here, attractive not only for people
to live in it, but for people to visit,

00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.960
for tourists,
and also attractive for businesses

00:45:32.040 --> 00:45:37.840
to come in and to invest in the city.
Now, how do you do that?

00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.560
Well, one of our major
issues is to deal with that.

00:45:43.640 --> 00:45:49.960
We have major We'll see in a minute,
we have major problems with

00:45:50.040 --> 00:45:52.480
transportation in Egypt.

00:45:52.560 --> 00:45:55.720
Roads are congested,
we have a lot of traffic volume.

00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:57.600
What do we do with this?

00:45:57.680 --> 00:46:01.880
One of our main issues or one The
approaches to deal with this is to provide

00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:04.880
green mobility and transport,
accessibility to the city,

00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:10.440
making sure that the city is accessible,
both vehicularly by using different modes

00:46:10.520 --> 00:46:13.200
of transportation as well
as to pedestrians as well.

00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:17.960
But also not only
providing accessibility,

00:46:18.040 --> 00:46:22.960
but also making sure that the city
is connected within each other.

00:46:23.040 --> 00:46:28.040
We have provided green open
network for people to move us.

00:46:28.120 --> 00:46:31.600
If you want to call them greenways,
connected Connecting cultural sites,

00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:37.840
heritage sites, natural heritage sites,
natural places for recreation,

00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:41.680
connecting all these together by greenways
to make sure that the city

00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.200
is well connected.

00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:49.000
Now, this is something very difficult
in a city that is very dense,

00:46:49.080 --> 00:46:52.560
highly polluted, and poor.

00:46:56.160 --> 00:46:57.640
Sorry.

00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:07.240
How can I go back?

00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.400
Okay.

00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:20.920
We also wanted to make sure that the city
is connected through a transport mode,

00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:27.800
a number of integrated transport modes
that provide mobility to the people.

00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:35.240
The reason is that just 10 years ago,
when we were doing this study,

00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:40.880
Egypt only had 78 kilometers of metro
lines, and this was the main mass

00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.240
rapid transit system that existed.

00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:47.920
For a population of 8 million people,
this was not sufficient.

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.200
We had about 4.5 million passengers per
day, which is considered one

00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.640
of the highest worldwide.

00:47:53.720 --> 00:48:00.240
Now, we have the fourth line
that's actually being implemented.

00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.600
So this 78 kilometers no longer.

00:48:02.680 --> 00:48:04.840
However, when you

00:48:06.080 --> 00:48:10.320
compare the share a million people

00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:16.320
in Egypt have of railway,
we have 8 kilometers of transit

00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.800
per million residents of the city.

00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:25.760
Compared that to Beijing, which has 21,
Mexico City, 33,

00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.440
London, 55, and Paris, 76.

00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.800
We are actually still lacking a lot.

00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:39.000
Now, to make up for this insufficiency
of transport modes,

00:48:39.080 --> 00:48:42.200
various modes of transportation came out,

00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:46.320
which include microbusses and minibusses

00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.240
which are informal microbusses.

00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:49.760
They have their own routes.

00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.320
However, they're informal.
They're not controlled.

00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.520
They will stop anywhere.

00:48:54.600 --> 00:48:58.160
They'll cause a lot of traffic
problems and congestion and so on.

00:49:01.640 --> 00:49:04.800
What

00:49:06.640 --> 00:49:09.360
we plan to do is to make sure that we have

00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.400
a green mobility and transport network
that provides for Metro, BRT,

00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:15.680
water taxi, and bike sharing stations.

00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.040
To do this,
I'll show you here, this is an action area

00:49:20.120 --> 00:49:24.520
that was phase one of what we
were planning to do, is to...

00:49:24.600 --> 00:49:30.480
We have a BRT, which is a bus rapid
transit system, going along

00:49:30.560 --> 00:49:33.520
one of the main thoroughfares
in Giza and connecting

00:49:33.600 --> 00:49:37.960
by the Cairo University campus
and going all the way to...

00:49:38.040 --> 00:49:41.160
Now, by the way, the
city of Giza has about...

00:49:41.240 --> 00:49:44.320
The Giza government has
about 19 towns and cities.

00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:45.800
You can Can you imagine?

00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:53.720
The Giza City has about eight smaller
districts and towns, so it is quite large.

00:49:57.600 --> 00:50:01.000
Actually, the phase one,
which It was supposed to be a two

00:50:01.080 --> 00:50:06.480
and a half year plan,
was to provide a BRT system

00:50:06.600 --> 00:50:09.320
that connects the major routes in two

00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:15.400
of the eight districts in Giza City.

00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:22.120
We also had a number of
bike stations, a water taxi system.

00:50:22.200 --> 00:50:27.040
This was linked to a major thorough
for here with an underpass which is

00:50:27.120 --> 00:50:34.840
connected to the Opera House and the the
water taxi station.

00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:40.280
We had also a metro line,

00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:42.120
which is the third metro line.

00:50:42.200 --> 00:50:44.360
This is the fourth metro line.

00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.920
That is that was being
developed at the time.

00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:51.480
This was being developed
before I went on board.

00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.360
Now,
our second approach was to provide

00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:06.040
a network of green corridors connecting,
as I said, heritage sites,

00:51:06.120 --> 00:51:11.800
recreational sites, making as links
between important sites,

00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:16.120
whether it's heritage, culture sites,
historic sites,

00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:21.680
As I said, we have a major problem
with the waterfront in denial because it's

00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:27.960
used up by the private, and the residents
do not have access to the waterfront.

00:51:28.040 --> 00:51:35.360
Actually, it's all clubs and cafés and
things that are all by private sector.

00:51:44.080 --> 00:51:49.040
In phase one, in the first action plan
area, we have the zoo which is existing,

00:51:49.120 --> 00:51:50.640
but it's actually run down.

00:51:50.720 --> 00:51:55.520
We have the Orman Park, which originally
used to be part of the zoo.

00:51:55.600 --> 00:51:57.880
Actually, Calgary University
is in this area here.

00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:00.800
This is the Nile.

00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.560
This is a main thoroughfors that cut
through between dividing the...

00:52:05.640 --> 00:52:08.720
Originally the zoo into two.

00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:15.080
We decided to try and connect
the zoo and the Orman Park with the water

00:52:15.160 --> 00:52:21.560
front around here and make sure that
it is accessible to all the residents.

00:52:21.640 --> 00:52:26.240
Just like Dennis was just showing,
we actually have a difference in height

00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:32.560
between the water level and the
roads along the waterfront.

00:52:32.640 --> 00:52:36.240
We designed it very much similar
to what Dennis was saying in Chicago.

00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.200
We had actually a place where...

00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:44.520
I couldn't put all the slides in, but it
has taken a full day to explain this.

00:52:44.600 --> 00:52:50.160
But Anyway, we had here cafés on the lower

00:52:50.240 --> 00:52:51.760
level, and on top you would be walking.

00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.920
At this time,
if you walk around the Cornish or

00:52:55.000 --> 00:53:00.000
the waterfront, you cannot literally,
more or less, except in a few places,

00:53:00.080 --> 00:53:01.960
you cannot see the waterfront.

00:53:02.040 --> 00:53:06.440
What we were trying to do is to make
sure that waterfront is available to you.

00:53:06.520 --> 00:53:08.360
You have access to it.

00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:09.960
We were trying to remove that.

00:53:10.040 --> 00:53:14.440
Of course,
many of these entities are government

00:53:14.520 --> 00:53:18.440
entities, so The Ministry
of Internal Affairs, for example,

00:53:18.520 --> 00:53:21.480
had a major club in this area.

00:53:21.560 --> 00:53:26.960
My first fight was with the Ministry of
Internal Affairs to get them out of there.

00:53:27.040 --> 00:53:31.480
I think we were capable to do it,
and it's currently being implemented.

00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.760
We also renovated.

00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:41.920
We put a plan for renovating and taking it
back, actually, to its original

00:53:43.240 --> 00:53:45.440
sense of what it was, the Orman Park.

00:53:45.520 --> 00:53:49.640
We had a major pedestrian tunnel below.

00:53:49.720 --> 00:53:54.120
We didn't shut down the thoroughfare,
but we had a major pedestrian tunnel

00:53:54.200 --> 00:53:58.320
between the two parks to make sure
that they are connected as

00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.280
it used to be in the past.

00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:03.760
As you can see here,

00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:08.240
we were also identifying all the nodes

00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.720
of development or green nodes
of development, and in that sense, again,

00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.680
either historic sites, cultural sites,
museums, and so on,

00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:22.480
and connected them through green corridors
which are eventually connected.

00:54:22.560 --> 00:54:24.400
This is, for example, Gazetur Korsai.

00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:27.080
It's an island called Corsaya.

00:54:27.160 --> 00:54:29.520
We were making these connections to make
sure that the pedestrians

00:54:29.600 --> 00:54:33.520
have priority over the cars.

00:54:36.560 --> 00:54:42.200
Now,
in phase one, we had four

00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:46.680
underpasses that were designed, and
actually, they were designed by myself.

00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:51.720
I worked as a governor, also as
an architect and urban planner.

00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.080
This one has already been implemented.

00:54:54.160 --> 00:54:55.160
It's about two and a half kilometers.

00:54:55.240 --> 00:54:58.400
This is Cairo University here.

00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:00.680
This is the Orman Park.

00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:02.360
This is the zoo.

00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:07.840
This tour offer just crossed directly
to the manual area,

00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:11.880
going into the city of Cairo proper.

00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:17.040
What we did is actually we provided
an underpass here between both, connecting

00:55:17.120 --> 00:55:22.920
both, and we developed an underpass.

00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:29.120
So the presidents have privileged to cross
here without having to pass

00:55:29.200 --> 00:55:31.120
any vehicular traffic.

00:55:31.200 --> 00:55:34.400
We did the same in this area here.

00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:38.080
This tower here was actually originally
owned, not actually owned, but actually

00:55:38.160 --> 00:55:41.880
was used by the police authority.

00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:46.040
We had a fight and we were able
to convince them to move out.

00:55:46.120 --> 00:55:50.200
We gave them a piece of land elsewhere
and we utilized it to introduce

00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:57.880
a high-rise tower overlooking the Orman
park that could be utilized as a hotel.

00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:06.400
Now, as you can see,
the tunnels are all open tunnels.

00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.080
They're not really closed tunnels.

00:56:09.160 --> 00:56:12.960
So actually trying to maintain
the sustainability and also the view

00:56:13.040 --> 00:56:19.160
of the city and utilizing urban
landscape as part of the connection.

00:56:23.560 --> 00:56:29.240
Now, our third approach was to develop
nodes for business development.

00:56:29.320 --> 00:56:33.480
And these nodes of development,
and we started off by the Pyramids Plateau

00:56:33.560 --> 00:56:39.040
where the Pyramids exist.

00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:42.000
I'll show you why we started
there because we have a major...

00:56:42.080 --> 00:56:48.080
These are the This is the three pyramids,

00:56:48.160 --> 00:56:51.120
the great pyramids of Egypt.

00:56:51.200 --> 00:56:57.640
We have a lot of pyramids, but these
are the three great pyramids of Egypt.

00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:02.440
It's a world It's one of the
seven wonders of the world.

00:57:02.520 --> 00:57:08.760
And yet, actually, if you go there,
it's really run down.

00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:13.640
We wanted to make sure that it's developed
in a way that is suitable for this area,

00:57:13.720 --> 00:57:18.160
but at the same time that fits within
the culture context of the area.

00:57:18.240 --> 00:57:20.480
Now, I don't know if you guys are familiar
with the GEM,

00:57:20.560 --> 00:57:23.600
which is actually
the Great Egyptian Museum,

00:57:23.680 --> 00:57:26.000
which is the biggest museum in the world.

00:57:26.080 --> 00:57:28.720
The GEM is located here.

00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:30.160
It was a competition.

00:57:30.240 --> 00:57:34.040
It's It's already built and it's partially
opened just last year,

00:57:34.120 --> 00:57:35.920
actually earlier this year.

00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.040
We tried to build five nodes

00:57:40.120 --> 00:57:44.360
of development around the GEM area

00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:51.320
to connect them together with green links
and at the same time provide a different

00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.880
setting for the Pyramids Plateau,
which is this area here,

00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:56.480
which is considered a heritage site.

00:57:56.560 --> 00:58:01.400
Our first area is the GEM hotel area.

00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:06.200
We already have this area as
exists as hotels.

00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:07.680
It's a hotel strip.

00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:11.480
The MENA House Hotel is in this area here.

00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:17.160
We developed additional hotel areas
in this area here because these

00:58:17.240 --> 00:58:19.280
hotels are always busy.

00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:24.840
This is about 56 acres of land,
and we'll get to that.

00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:29.200
I'll just show you a sample of each
of these sectors on its own.

00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:31.880
Then we have the Gem Plaza.

00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:36.160
The
Gem sits a few kilometers away

00:58:36.240 --> 00:58:42.360
from the pyramids, and you will
see in a section in the next slide.

00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.160
We have a plaza that's terraced down.

00:58:45.240 --> 00:58:51.080
You can actually have services,
cafeterias, and you have a view of

00:58:51.160 --> 00:58:55.080
the pyramids, but at the same time without
obstructing any view,

00:58:55.160 --> 00:59:01.200
and at the same time maintaining
the current terrain the landscape.

00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:05.680
We have a monorail that
links all this together.

00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:10.360
We have the Hufu Plaza,
which is about 250 acres.

00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:18.280
Again, this is the reception area
for the Pyramids Plateau.

00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.760
I'll go in detail when we get to that.

00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:25.160
Then the fourth sector is the open museum

00:59:25.240 --> 00:59:27.840
in front of the Sphynx and hotel area,

00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:32.720
another hotel that fits within what we
call the Dunes Hotel,

00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:35.760
taking the form of the Dunes, Sand Dunes.

00:59:35.840 --> 00:59:40.480
The final is an area,
and I'll tell you why.

00:59:40.560 --> 00:59:44.840
It's the Sphynx new village
because this area was originally is

00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:48.400
currently occupied by or was at the time,

00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:52.480
currently occupied by informal housing.

00:59:52.560 --> 00:59:56.080
We wanted to make sure that we could
utilize that, but yet at the same time

00:59:56.160 --> 00:59:59.080
give them the opportunity so we won't
uproot them to make sure that they

00:59:59.160 --> 01:00:02.840
can go back and live in the same area.

01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:07.880
This is the Pyramids Plateau.

01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:15.960
As you can see, the unplanned area
are the ones in dark brown.

01:00:16.200 --> 01:00:23.080
This area until this main thoroughfare
here is all going to be removed,

01:00:23.160 --> 01:00:28.440
and we are going to replace it
by a museum, and we're also going to put

01:00:28.520 --> 01:00:34.680
in a new housing village to accommodate
people living in this area.

01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:39.280
There's various options for tenure to make
sure that they can afford to be

01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.560
able to move in to these units.

01:00:43.080 --> 01:00:44.640
Of course, we did a survey.

01:00:44.720 --> 01:00:47.880
A lot We have studies,
SWOT analysis and many other studies

01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:52.960
to ensure that people are accepting
that and that this is something that's

01:00:53.040 --> 01:00:56.560
also accepted socially,
not only environmentally.

01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:07.160
This is the GEM hotels area,
which is up here.

01:01:07.240 --> 01:01:13.360
This is the GEM, the Great Egyptian
Museum, which has been recently opened.

01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.040
This is the hotel area
that we are planning.

01:01:17.120 --> 01:01:20.040
This was a very ambitious project.

01:01:20.120 --> 01:01:25.600
Part of it is being developed right now.
Not all of it, but part of it.

01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:31.640
This was the existing hotel area.
It's a hotel strip.

01:01:31.720 --> 01:01:36.680
In this part here also, and you will see,
actually this image is taken,

01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:43.400
as you can see, from the informal housing
areas and informal unplanned areas

01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:46.120
overlooking the permits.
As you can see it's very close.

01:01:46.200 --> 01:01:53.160
They're enroaching on the
side of the pyramids plateau.

01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:06.240
This is our concept
plan for the hotel area.

01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.040
This is all terraced.

01:02:08.120 --> 01:02:09.440
I know you see in a section in a minute.

01:02:09.520 --> 01:02:12.840
It's a five-star hotels
and four-star hotels.

01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:17.280
There is a difference
in level was about 25 meters.

01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:18.560
We utilize this.

01:02:18.640 --> 01:02:21.360
As you can see, this is the hotel,
this is the pyramid.

01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:24.720
We wanted to make sure that
the line of sight is not cut.

01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:31.120
This is actually the terraced
garden that we planning with shops

01:02:31.200 --> 01:02:38.280
underneath, cafés and further services,
and also a station for the monor rail.

01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:42.840
We utilized this
difference in terrain to make sure that we

01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:46.240
can get more stories here overlooking The
first site, but at the same time,

01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:48.200
looking at the permits.

01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:54.440
So there are service units here,
and these are looking towards the permits.

01:02:54.520 --> 01:02:56.440
They have a view of the permits.

01:02:57.080 --> 01:03:03.560
The second site, which is the
Stepped Plaza, the Gem Stepped Plaza here.

01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:05.120
This is, again, the GEM.

01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:08.400
This is the hotel area.

01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:13.120
This is a view from one of the hotels,
one of the existing hotels

01:03:13.200 --> 01:03:15.560
overlooking the permits.

01:03:15.640 --> 01:03:20.160
This is an image of the design of

01:03:20.240 --> 01:03:25.440
the GEM Museum, the Great Egyptian Museum.

01:03:28.720 --> 01:03:32.600
As As you can see, this is all stepped.

01:03:32.680 --> 01:03:37.880
This is taking various and it's all green.

01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:41.440
Well, it's not all green, actually,
but green in the sense, not

01:03:41.520 --> 01:03:46.160
to be colored green, but it's sustainable.

01:03:46.240 --> 01:03:49.160
It's overlooking the pyramids.

01:03:49.240 --> 01:03:53.960
This part here is all
the existing hotel areas.

01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:59.760
As I said, this is about 170 acres.

01:04:00.120 --> 01:04:01.160
These are the pyramids.

01:04:01.240 --> 01:04:05.680
This is the Stepped Plaza that we were
planning, overlooking the pyramids.

01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.960
This is all conceptual at this time.

01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:21.280
Now, Going back to the Khufu Plaza in

01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:24.880
front of the Khufu, the largest pyramid.

01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:26.600
This was developed.

01:04:26.680 --> 01:04:33.360
This is actually the golf area of the
Mina House Hotel overlooking the pyramids.

01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:40.920
The Khufu Plaza was meant to be
the invitation into the Pyramids Plateau.

01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.480
It was designed in such a way that it does
not block the view,

01:04:44.560 --> 01:04:47.200
but also provides an invitation.

01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:53.200
It's welcoming you
to the Pyramids Plateau.

01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:56.480
At this time, actually,
the way you go to the Pyramids is you go

01:04:56.560 --> 01:04:59.160
up this way, you take a road,
and you come down this way.

01:04:59.240 --> 01:05:03.920
You actually go axial to the Pyramids,
you come from the back.

01:05:04.600 --> 01:05:06.520
This road already exists.

01:05:06.600 --> 01:05:11.200
We decided to remove some
of the construction existing

01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:14.920
here and develop this Plaza here.

01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:21.360
Now, the Hufu Plaza, this is
how it's going to look like.

01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:26.320
Originally, as you can see in this image
here, the pyramids had a valley temple

01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:29.600
that was denied,
used to come close to the pyramids.

01:05:29.680 --> 01:05:32.640
This was the original how it was.

01:05:32.720 --> 01:05:39.640
We created a small pounding area
here to work also for drainage,

01:05:39.720 --> 01:05:46.320
but also to give an impression
of the same context that existed.

01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:53.720
This is the Plaza with the
underground parking and cafés.

01:05:55.760 --> 01:06:02.440
This is the image of what it's supposed
to Again, this is all conceptual.

01:06:02.520 --> 01:06:05.040
This would be overlooking the pyramids.

01:06:05.120 --> 01:06:07.960
You have a number of three,
four stories on this side.

01:06:08.040 --> 01:06:09.680
You have underground parking.

01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:11.600
This is an open Plaza.

01:06:11.680 --> 01:06:20.160
This, again, is cafeterias, restaurants,
and commercial shops, and so on.

01:06:23.240 --> 01:06:26.200
Again, this is the Monoreal.

01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:36.560
This is the accessibility
to the Khufu Mosque.

01:06:36.640 --> 01:06:44.080
As you can see, you have a main axis
with the pyramid centered on its axis.

01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:53.200
Also, we had an open museum.

01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:57.360
This is the area that was actually at this
time, and this is actually

01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:00.920
developed in two phases.

01:07:03.200 --> 01:07:11.240
Currently, part of this has informal
housing and unplanned developments.

01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:15.480
Based on the agreements that were made
with the people, that we would have these

01:07:15.560 --> 01:07:21.800
people displaced to this area here,
which is actually just a few meters away,

01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:24.800
and at the same time, utilize this

01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:30.120
as a hotel and outdoor exhibition area.

01:07:30.200 --> 01:07:34.920
We use the term dunes because as
you will see in the next image.

01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.960
These are the three pyramids.

01:07:38.040 --> 01:07:42.760
This is the image that we planned,
and this is all the area

01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.400
for outdoor exhibition.

01:07:47.560 --> 01:07:50.040
As you can see, it's all interconnected.

01:07:50.120 --> 01:07:53.640
There's a linear corridor that connects
all this, a green corridor

01:07:53.720 --> 01:07:56.680
that connects all this together.

01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.840
This is the image This is
the image that you will find.

01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:06.160
We use the same dune-type shape of the

01:08:06.240 --> 01:08:09.920
sands to develop the roof of the hotel.

01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:11.280
Again, this is all conceptual.

01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:14.520
These are all ideas,
but overlooking the pyramids.

01:08:14.600 --> 01:08:19.120
All this area is supposed to be
external exhibits.

01:08:19.200 --> 01:08:21.440
The

01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:29.200
final phase of this is the 200 acres

01:08:29.280 --> 01:08:33.280
of The Things village,

01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:37.080
which is actually partially to hold the

01:08:37.160 --> 01:08:41.840
residents who will be moving
from here to this part.

01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:46.440
Also it has some three
and four star boutique hotels.

01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:54.800
This area is existing.

01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:55.920
We did not remove it.

01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:00.000
Actually, this is the area
that we're working around.

01:09:00.080 --> 01:09:04.320
Again,
we made sure that we maintained

01:09:04.400 --> 01:09:10.160
the traditional
image of the buildings and also the

01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:16.520
accessibility and vista of the pyramids.

01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:25.120
I will leave you with this
film, which gives you a...

01:09:25.440 --> 01:09:26.840
If it works.

01:09:28.360 --> 01:09:29.000
Okay, there it is.

01:09:29.080 --> 01:09:32.440
Just gives you an idea of what
we were planning to do.

01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:36.640
This is just the plaza area.

01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:36.720
All right.
This is good.

01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:38.360
It's pretty full of larger ones.

01:14:38.440 --> 01:14:43.120
Just to call the cameras.

01:14:43.200 --> 01:14:47.080
Thank

01:16:38.360 --> 01:16:40.600
you.

01:16:42.040 --> 01:16:46.800
Well, I hope you will

01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:49.560
make it done to implement the project

01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:51.440
because it's very ambitious.

01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:57.280
I, too, have worked on this project with
green areas to protect

01:16:57.360 --> 01:17:00.480
heritage sites and so on.

01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:05.200
I worked in an easy situation in Italy

01:17:05.280 --> 01:17:08.160
somewhere, and we didn't succeed.

01:17:08.240 --> 01:17:12.800
We only a small part of our
project, we took it home.

01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.840
I really hope that you will have success.

01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.200
Now, we have increased our delay.

01:17:19.280 --> 01:17:23.480
I didn't want to stop you, but we have
strongly increased our delay.

01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:26.720
Now, I call immediately Agneska Sajats,

01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:31.800
who will talk about the transformation of

01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:33.720
the Port district of...

01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:38.520
Again, not the scale.

01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:45.400
I will tell you today a little bit about
development in Ghent.

01:17:45.480 --> 01:17:51.120
But before I start, I would like to share
some just the situation

01:17:51.200 --> 01:17:52.640
of the office where I work for.

01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:57.040
This morning, Professor Lawrence
was talking about the black hole.

01:17:57.120 --> 01:17:59.840
You have also a black hole when
you want to realize something.

01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:02.760
You have a black hole between
developments, you have the black hole

01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:05.720
between the city administration and so on.

01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:09.320
I try to believe that my office is making

01:18:09.400 --> 01:18:12.840
bridges in this black hole to connect all

01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:17.800
the sites together which you
need to create the projects, which

01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:22.240
you need to have a smooth operations when
you want to work together.

01:18:22.320 --> 01:18:26.240
So we bond with the city, we
implement the different projects,

01:18:26.320 --> 01:18:31.920
and we try to work together to realize
a nice, sustainable city.

01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:35.080
Thank you very much.
Together.

01:18:35.160 --> 01:18:38.640
So you have an overview of some
projects which you are doing.

01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:43.920
For example, the left one is a renovation

01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.800
of an old circus building in Ghent.

01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:49.200
Some facts and figures.

01:18:49.280 --> 01:18:53.080
We are moving to a little bit
smaller scale of a metropole.

01:18:53.160 --> 01:18:58.520
Ghent is the third largest city
in Belgium, but it has a very important

01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:05.560
position on the crossroad of the highways,
direction to Amsterdam, Paris, and London,

01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:08.520
Germany, around small 300,000 inhabitants.

01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:12.720
It became a half a million when
you look a little bit more around.

01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:19.000
We've got also our Harbor We've
got more over 160 nationalities.

01:19:19.080 --> 01:19:20.640
We've got also a lot of students.

01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:25.520
This year already reached
the number of 85,000 of students.

01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:31.200
It makes us a really vibrant city where
culture, art, shopping,

01:19:31.280 --> 01:19:33.800
everything is happening there.

01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:35.760
So it's livable.

01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:39.880
But if you want
to keep this on,

01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:42.560
and we are also one of the cities
in Belgium who is not shrinking,

01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:47.720
but who is really growing very rapidly
in the number of inhabitants, there is

01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:49.520
a structure vision very necessary.

01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:53.200
So we have to deal with this
demographic challenge.

01:19:53.280 --> 01:19:59.560
We have to also build houses who are also
affordable for everyone, social housing,

01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.840
but also student housing as well.

01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:08.680
We have to deal with our economic
challenge, how we can make the harbor, the

01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:12.840
Port of Ghent, will still be able to work.

01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:17.320
There is also a lot of changing
in the way of making economy today.

01:20:17.400 --> 01:20:21.120
We have also mobility challenge.

01:20:21.200 --> 01:20:25.960
We are shifting from car, direction, bike,
and pedestrian, so we have

01:20:26.040 --> 01:20:27.640
to find a space there for.

01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:32.400
We've got the climate challenge who also
came today in a lot of speeches before me.

01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:38.760
We have to find a space in a climate
robust way for everything together.

01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:40.640
We've got also a participation challenge.

01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:44.320
We do not want to create a city
without hearing their inhabitants.

01:20:44.400 --> 01:20:51.480
It has to be perfect for an open process
reaching the end result

01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:54.200
with all the users of the city.

01:20:54.280 --> 01:20:58.200
For this, we create five major
principles to grow wisely.

01:20:58.280 --> 01:21:03.080
It may be important to To remember this,
those principles are the number

01:21:03.160 --> 01:21:07.760
of the city administration
registration ruling system.

01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:14.640
So whatever political way will change,
they have to deal with those five

01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:15.840
elements.

01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:20.600
So this is one of the most
important stuff to remember.

01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:26.080
And those five elements are also written
down in 10 different aims and goals.

01:21:26.160 --> 01:21:32.040
Is this the way how we are trying to
implement them in all different projects?

01:21:32.120 --> 01:21:38.120
Some of them are already coming also
back in the project which I'm leading.

01:21:38.200 --> 01:21:40.240
I'm not going to talk about all of them.

01:21:40.320 --> 01:21:44.520
Some of them were also already here,
taught by other people.

01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:46.520
We are moving further on.

01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:52.760
I would like maybe to make a small
bridge with the measure of illness.

01:21:52.840 --> 01:21:56.760
You can imagine, all those people
who have all these different agendas.

01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:00.240
You don't have to be only aware them.

01:22:00.320 --> 01:22:02.800
You don't have to be afraid of them,
but you have to deal with them.

01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:05.800
Everyone is in the fact
carrying a piece of puzzle.

01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:08.600
Everyone is carrying a piece
of his or her own agenda.

01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:11.680
All you are trying is to work
together, so cooperate.

01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:17.200
This is one of the main way how
we are trying to do it in Ghent.

01:22:17.280 --> 01:22:22.000
We achieved really some

01:22:22.080 --> 01:22:25.040
shifting in the mentality of people.

01:22:25.120 --> 01:22:29.200
We learned everyone in Ghent,
slower means faster.

01:22:29.280 --> 01:22:30.920
You have to your car at home.

01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:33.960
You just have to come to your
work by bike or by foot.

01:22:34.040 --> 01:22:38.160
We have the largest
pedestrian area in Europe, 51 hectare

01:22:38.240 --> 01:22:40.320
for a small city is really quite a lot.

01:22:40.400 --> 01:22:44.920
It's also very special about the streets
which we have, the cars,

01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:46.480
staying behind the bikes.

01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:51.960
The speed, you have to adjust your speed
to a bike on the street.

01:22:52.040 --> 01:22:55.880
We've got also a completely new
vision about the water in the city.

01:22:55.960 --> 01:22:58.480
We rediscovered the water
after the second world war.

01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:03.720
A lot of water canals and rivers were just

01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:06.320
fulfilled to create extra space

01:23:06.400 --> 01:23:08.880
for cars, for parking spots.

01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:15.680
With the change of this last 25 years,
we discovered this is not

01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.360
the way how it has to go again.

01:23:18.440 --> 01:23:23.880
The water brings so many more in the city,
can connect people together,

01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:29.640
can also bring an extra cooling down
effect in the climate challenge.

01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:34.040
All those closed up areas
are reopening again.

01:23:34.120 --> 01:23:38.280
Also the project which I'm leading,
the old dockers projects,

01:23:38.360 --> 01:23:42.440
causing the fact of revitalization
of the three oldest docks situated

01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:49.280
in the walking distance from the center
of the city is also a part of this vision.

01:23:49.360 --> 01:23:54.920
We decided 2004, they are going to change
this old Harbor and Brownfield

01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:56.920
area into a new district area.

01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:59.200
But of course, how you can do it,
you cannot do it just

01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:01.000
from one day the other one.

01:24:01.080 --> 01:24:05.880
We did an European competition who was won
by Office for Metropolitan Architecture

01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:12.960
from Rotterdam, with the very clear
and simple urban vision of brochette.

01:24:13.040 --> 01:24:19.040
This is the figure who is saying more than
words and who was also very easy for me

01:24:19.120 --> 01:24:21.880
to explain to the inhabitants
what we are going to do there.

01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:26.400
We are just
treating the dogs as a statistic,

01:24:26.480 --> 01:24:30.360
and on it we put
some buildings and some green between

01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:32.400
areas, and they are always
changing with each other.

01:24:32.480 --> 01:24:35.520
But this, you have always a view
and connection with the dogs.

01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:39.520
Like on this, on each brochette,
you need something spicy.

01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:43.960
Those are going to be our landmarks in
the beginning and the end of the project.

01:24:44.040 --> 01:24:48.240
Those For this project, together,
we are going to realize around 1,000,

01:24:48.320 --> 01:24:54.600
1,200 houses,
40% social and affordable housing.

01:24:54.680 --> 01:24:58.880
This is very important if you want
to keep everyone living still in the city.

01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:02.880
There are also going to different
way of making of housing, co-housing,

01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:09.000
student housing, apartments,
also some offices, schools,

01:25:09.080 --> 01:25:11.400
sport house, and shops.

01:25:11.480 --> 01:25:16.320
Together, we are accepting there
around more than 3,000 new inhabitants.

01:25:16.400 --> 01:25:18.160
The zone is quite huge.

01:25:18.240 --> 01:25:23.440
The distance from the north to the south,
it's more than 2 kilometers.

01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:25.480
You can see it's really not so dense.

01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:29.920
If you compare this project with
similar waterfront realization like

01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:34.520
in in London, London Ducks or in Hamburg,
then you see that our density is really

01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:38.240
low for this waterfront realization.

01:25:38.320 --> 01:25:44.800
It took us several years to achieve some
aims and some results

01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:47.960
with especially public partnerships.

01:25:48.040 --> 01:25:51.360
We had to remove the new City Ring Road,
build some bridges,

01:25:51.440 --> 01:25:53.760
also do renovation of the cable.

01:25:53.840 --> 01:26:00.120
For all of this stuff, we had to get
money from all other authorities.

01:26:00.200 --> 01:26:06.440
Also very expensive problem of integrated

01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:09.400
remediation of this brown site.

01:26:09.480 --> 01:26:13.120
Also in this project,
you could smell a petroleum when

01:26:13.200 --> 01:26:15.400
you just dig a hole in the ground.

01:26:15.480 --> 01:26:21.480
We manage the Flemish Water Authority so
far to build two bridges,

01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:23.360
the Batavia Matadi Bridge,
and the bridge on the right,

01:26:23.440 --> 01:26:25.920
which is in a small video showing you.

01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:30.240
It's a really very special bridge because
it's moving up and down to You're

01:26:30.320 --> 01:26:31.840
allowed to pass both benefit.

01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.880
At the same moment as a bicycle
and pedestrian, you are still

01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:36.240
allowed to use a bridge.

01:26:36.320 --> 01:26:40.120
Because of the slopes, it also gives
you be more than just a bridge.

01:26:40.200 --> 01:26:43.400
It's not a line who is connecting the two
banks with each other,

01:26:43.480 --> 01:26:49.480
but it also gives you a space,
for example, for a cinema in the evening.

01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:52.640
It's working very well this way.

01:26:52.880 --> 01:26:57.000
We also found out that the renovation
of the cables was necessary.

01:26:57.080 --> 01:27:02.360
More than 2 km has to be done
We did it all different ways.

01:27:02.440 --> 01:27:06.200
But the most important,
what we also did is the public spaces.

01:27:06.280 --> 01:27:10.720
In this area, there are going to be
three huge neighborhood parks.

01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:12.120
Some of them already realized.

01:27:12.200 --> 01:27:17.680
As a norm, What we are using in Ghent is
for each new inhabitants,

01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:22.120
you need to create more than 10 square
meters of a green area,

01:27:22.200 --> 01:27:23.880
a public green area.

01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:26.200
This is how we deal it.

01:27:26.280 --> 01:27:32.880
Also the Cape promenades are also a part
of this public space and already today,

01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:38.240
used by inhabitants,
as you can see on those pictures.

01:27:38.480 --> 01:27:43.160
Being busy on this project,
we found out that not such a long time

01:27:43.240 --> 01:27:47.160
ago, in the 1980s, there's a picture above
presentation, there were

01:27:47.240 --> 01:27:48.640
several cranes there.

01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:51.280
It was in a Harbor area,
so it was logical.

01:27:51.360 --> 01:27:55.480
But when I started on this project 2004,
they were all gone, except two of them,

01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:58.120
and we were lucky to found them back.

01:27:58.200 --> 01:28:03.520
And in effect, to save them before being
demolished by a Harbor administration.

01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:08.520
We bring them over by water and we put
them there where the future

01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.640
parks are going to be situated.

01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:16.960
So even before the project was realized,
already the visitors could see where

01:28:17.040 --> 01:28:20.960
the crane is standing, there is going
to be in the future a public park.

01:28:21.040 --> 01:28:25.960
This is also the way
how it's working like.

01:28:26.040 --> 01:28:29.800
Also, the part of a successful story
can be seen in a temporary use.

01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:32.920
It's the way how all different grounds

01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:37.000
and areas were in effect already given

01:28:37.080 --> 01:28:42.680
to the people to make all different

01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:47.600
nice

01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:55.040
happenings from driving cinema to the flea
markets to the beach on the right

01:28:55.120 --> 01:28:57.520
side of the picture.

01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:02.320
In fact, already before being realized,
this project, this area,

01:29:02.400 --> 01:29:04.480
already became a part of the city.

01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.680
This was also the way how you could put it
on the mental maps

01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:09.840
for the people of Ghent.

01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:11.480
This was how it was looking like.

01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:13.040
It is still going on.

01:29:13.120 --> 01:29:17.920
Even when they are places who are
realized, even between them.

01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.240
We look for the spots who are still
staying empty, and we are also

01:29:21.320 --> 01:29:23.560
giving them to the inhabitants.

01:29:23.640 --> 01:29:25.840
Those are all the pictures of 2004.

01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:29.800
You can see how it's living like.

01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:35.080
Next to this public site,
you still have got your private site.

01:29:35.160 --> 01:29:39.720
You have to find
a developer to realize it.

01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:46.040
Waterfront is, of course,
a very powerful a firm for developers,

01:29:46.120 --> 01:29:47.680
and they like to build it.

01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:50.040
We are always doing this in the phases.

01:29:50.120 --> 01:29:54.040
We also decided not to bring the whole
project on the market again,

01:29:54.120 --> 01:29:57.360
but to cut it into pieces,
to cut it in some small phases,

01:29:57.440 --> 01:30:02.000
and each time, trying to find the right
partner in the first phase,

01:30:02.080 --> 01:30:06.400
and then in the second one, find
the best project with the best ambitions.

01:30:06.480 --> 01:30:11.720
We are not afraid of communicating
this with the inhabitants of Ghent.

01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:16.080
The picture on the right shows you
a picture of a Saturday morning where

01:30:16.160 --> 01:30:17.920
the three different developers who were

01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:23.920
left in one of the phases, phase 2,

01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:25.280
who were still left.

01:30:25.360 --> 01:30:27.960
We still had to decide which one
of those three are going to choose.

01:30:28.040 --> 01:30:34.160
The people could just tell us what did
we think about those three propositions.

01:30:34.240 --> 01:30:38.720
This was also the way how the jury has to

01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:42.600
receive those opinion from the people,

01:30:42.680 --> 01:30:46.360
and they had to be aware of which project

01:30:46.440 --> 01:30:50.120
is more suitable and is more carried

01:30:50.200 --> 01:30:51.800
on by inhabitants, and which one less.

01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:58.000
It's really very far away going way
of participation with inhabitants.

01:30:58.080 --> 01:31:02.040
This is a little a bit how it's
looking like already today.

01:31:02.120 --> 01:31:04.760
We have some projects who are
built on the left side.

01:31:04.840 --> 01:31:09.960
Then it's popping up the red tower
on the right side who is

01:31:10.040 --> 01:31:12.120
also now under construction.

01:31:12.200 --> 01:31:15.760
The project is growing slowly

01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:20.480
with different small projects, but it

01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:23.160
also gives us a possibility to learn.

01:31:23.240 --> 01:31:26.520
Each phase which we do,
which project which we put it

01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:28.920
on the market,
we can always ask ourselves, Okay,

01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:33.200
what what happened here well,
what could be still done better,

01:31:33.280 --> 01:31:36.680
and how we can adjust it in the next one.

01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:42.440
For example, here's the one which you just
seen in the video, the Red Tower,

01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:46.680
is an example where we decided to choose
for a project with very high

01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:48.360
ambition on circulation.

01:31:48.440 --> 01:31:54.880
Very shortly, telling this,
all the inhabitants in those 15 buildings

01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:58.200
here,
they are having their electricity

01:31:58.280 --> 01:32:03.400
and their warm system on their own black
water coming from the toilets

01:32:03.480 --> 01:32:05.360
and from the kitchen waste.

01:32:05.440 --> 01:32:10.640
We've got a special biological current
reactor beneath the parking spot,

01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:13.280
and we are making their own electricity.

01:32:13.360 --> 01:32:18.560
This is the way how we are trying to make
here a very far way of reuse

01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:22.440
of the sources which are even
produced by a human being.

01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:27.720
I'm going to do it quicker
because I have to really...

01:32:28.240 --> 01:32:32.200
This With areas, it means also
that you need new schools.

01:32:32.280 --> 01:32:37.240
They're also going to come there
and wrapping up with some lessons learned.

01:32:37.320 --> 01:32:40.800
We've learned that if you have a solid
master plan, you have your brochette,

01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:44.720
but you still can change some things
by flexible master planning

01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:45.280
what the opening is.

01:32:45.360 --> 01:32:48.840
This was the discussion on what you can
be written down and where

01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:51.760
you can have some openings.
We still believe in this research.

01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:56.480
We also learned that you have to switch
between all different frameworks,

01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:58.280
conditions who are
changing the whole time.

01:32:58.360 --> 01:33:02.040
It can be political, it can be financial,
this can be new insights,

01:33:02.120 --> 01:33:06.880
so you have to be easy to be finding
the way how you can respond on it.

01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:10.160
We have also continuity in the project
management and the communication,

01:33:10.240 --> 01:33:13.000
very long community from already 20 years.

01:33:13.080 --> 01:33:18.760
We are trying to drive
the end result together.

01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:23.000
The last one who is maybe the most
important for a lot of you,

01:33:23.080 --> 01:33:26.920
for a lot of cities, is the ground
position as a permanent lever.

01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:31.200
Without having strong ground position as
a city, as an agency,

01:33:31.280 --> 01:33:37.560
you are not able to achieve your aim or
you're not able to create those framework

01:33:37.640 --> 01:33:39.600
which you would like to have.

01:33:39.680 --> 01:33:46.320
This was just showing how the site
was changed the last 20 years.

01:33:46.400 --> 01:33:49.520
Also, like in Boston,
we learned that the high buildings,

01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:52.160
they cannot be put in the front
of the Riverside, but they have

01:33:52.240 --> 01:33:53.760
to be put a little bit backwards.

01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:58.160
But this everyone can have
this nice view over the docks.

01:33:58.240 --> 01:34:02.640
The last That's the thing which I
would like to share with all of you.

01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:08.120
Also, do not be afraid to introduce a wide
space, a space without a decision,

01:34:08.200 --> 01:34:14.480
really a place where there is a space for
experiment, for innovation, for open mind.

01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:18.080
I really recommend you this very much.

01:34:18.160 --> 01:34:21.440
We do it even in our
spatial structure planning.

01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:25.680
We are putting those open wide spaces
therein because this is the way how you

01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:30.440
can try to answer what's
going on in the world.

01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:35.000
It's really rapidly a lot of changing,
and the today and tomorrow can

01:34:35.080 --> 01:34:36.760
be quite opposite of each other.

01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:40.920
This is the way how you can
deal with this as an expert.

01:34:41.160 --> 01:34:43.080
Thank you very much for your attention.

01:34:46.080 --> 01:34:50.000
If some of you want to visit again,
I have those leaflets with me,

01:34:50.080 --> 01:34:52.000
so just come and ask.

01:34:52.080 --> 01:34:53.280
I will give it to you.

01:34:56.320 --> 01:35:03.200
I think you've won also the special The
special award for respecting the time.

01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:06.680
Just one or two minutes more
than assigned.

01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:10.240
Very interesting, very inspiring.

01:35:10.320 --> 01:35:13.640
I think we can take home many indications

01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:19.400
that we can apply in similar works

01:35:19.480 --> 01:35:22.440
in our countries and regions.

01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:27.680
Now, I have the honor to announce
Professor Anguelani Maggie Demecia.

01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:32.920
Just want to I underline that she is

01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:35.760
the first Black, South African full

01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:39.120
professor for town and regional planning.

01:35:39.200 --> 01:35:42.240
The floor is yours.

01:35:46.400 --> 01:35:48.720
Good afternoon, colleagues.

01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:50.320
Can you hear me?

01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:55.160
When I was putting this presentation,
I was under the impression

01:35:55.240 --> 01:35:57.120
that we have 10 minutes.

01:35:57.200 --> 01:36:03.840
I didn't realize that we can easily
10 minutes into about half an hour.

01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:06.640
Otherwise, I would have prepared as such.

01:36:06.720 --> 01:36:09.440
Because I had 10 minutes,
then I had to put 10 slides.

01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:12.960
That's how I present because
I'm trying to manage my time.

01:36:13.040 --> 01:36:16.720
Most of the information, if needed,
I will be able to share with colleagues.

01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:21.760
But as a way of introduction,
I just want to thank

01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:26.480
Professor Pieto Lawrence for the invite.

01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:28.240
I've been working with him
for quite some time.

01:36:28.320 --> 01:36:33.280
As soon as I finish my studies
and enter into the world of academic.

01:36:33.360 --> 01:36:39.640
And he was there and introduced me to all
this academic space,

01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:43.840
international and all this.
So I really am grateful for that.

01:36:43.920 --> 01:36:49.960
Today, I will be talking to you about
a subject which is very close to my heart.

01:36:50.040 --> 01:36:53.120
For the longest time,
I have been researching more on inclusive

01:36:53.200 --> 01:36:55.480
cities and how to create inclusive cities.

01:36:55.560 --> 01:37:01.280
But now, as part of my or my work that I

01:37:01.360 --> 01:37:02.760
do at the Office of the President as

01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:07.240
the advisor, we are now realizing
that we have a bigger problem.

01:37:07.320 --> 01:37:11.120
I'm not going to be showing you fancy
models, but I'll be presenting

01:37:11.200 --> 01:37:14.000
the problems, so problems
that we have in the country

01:37:14.080 --> 01:37:17.520
and That would be my approach for today.

01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:20.960
Oh, gosh, I don't know how to move this.

01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:24.600
The middle one, right?

01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:25.920
Big one.

01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:27.640
It's not moving.

01:37:28.160 --> 01:37:31.640
Okay, so Why urban regeneration?

01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:34.200
I think most of you are aware of this.

01:37:34.280 --> 01:37:37.840
I don't want to bore you with details
and trying to define that.

01:37:37.920 --> 01:37:42.320
But just to say
the word urban regeneration and our

01:37:42.400 --> 01:37:47.760
understanding and our approach to it
is the issue around urban renewal,

01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:50.720
redevelopment, rehabilitation,
and rejuvenation.

01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:54.080
This is the approach that we are
approaching this in South Africa,

01:37:54.160 --> 01:37:57.840
and I believe this is
the understanding across the world.

01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.920
In South Africa, particularly,
this is a special meaning given the fact

01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:04.400
that postapartheid of South Africa,

01:38:04.480 --> 01:38:08.040
most of investors have left the cities.

01:38:08.120 --> 01:38:10.880
Our cities are in very bad state.

01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:14.240
We really need to go into this urban
regeneration, and I will demonstrate

01:38:14.320 --> 01:38:17.000
to you in a minute why this is key.

01:38:17.080 --> 01:38:21.400
Now, we do know that the key objectives
of urban regeneration,

01:38:21.480 --> 01:38:26.560
as different scholars, we want
to create opportunities for...

01:38:26.640 --> 01:38:29.920
Sorry, I can't see properly.

01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:31.240
For deprived communities.

01:38:31.320 --> 01:38:32.480
So this is the key.

01:38:32.560 --> 01:38:35.560
So this is the driver,
the concept at which we are picking this.

01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:39.520
So we want to make sure that we create
opportunities, but also

01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:42.240
create areas of attract.

01:38:42.320 --> 01:38:46.000
So make sure that residential
areas are more attractive.

01:38:46.080 --> 01:38:49.760
And remember, this is the principle
that we are going to approach our event

01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:52.120
regeneration and decided
by different scholars.

01:38:52.200 --> 01:38:57.280
We want to also improve a resident and
make sure that there's a sense of fulfill.

01:38:57.360 --> 01:39:01.560
And of course, unlocking development
capacity And the list go on.

01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:05.560
Now, if this is what we are saying,
and this is the approach, therefore,

01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:10.200
let's see if in South Africa we are
able to live up to these expectations.

01:39:10.280 --> 01:39:13.160
Now, oh, good Lord.

01:39:13.240 --> 01:39:15.960
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

01:39:16.080 --> 01:39:21.160
I don't know what I'm doing wrong here
because I'm pressing in the middle.

01:39:21.240 --> 01:39:22.400
It's not moving.

01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:30.240
Yeah, so now let's look at South African
context because this This

01:39:30.320 --> 01:39:31.720
carries a different meaning.

01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:34.520
So when I was sitting down this morning
listening to presentation,

01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:38.680
I was very inspired by a way in which
most of your colleagues have been

01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:41.920
presenting your presentations and also
the work that you've been doing.

01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:45.360
So in South Africa, we have a different
problem that we need to deal with this.

01:39:45.440 --> 01:39:49.960
Suffice to say, a battery generation
in South Africa is not a nice to have.

01:39:50.040 --> 01:39:53.360
It's an agency, it's life.

01:39:53.440 --> 01:39:56.680
If we don't do it,
it's risky if we not do it.

01:39:56.760 --> 01:40:00.280
It's not just because we want
to do it, we have to do it.

01:40:00.360 --> 01:40:03.680
I did talk earlier on about the capital
flight that we have wave and that

01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:05.560
investors have left our cities.

01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:08.320
Of course, we are now
in a state of decay, our cities.

01:40:08.400 --> 01:40:10.600
That building is not fake, it's real.

01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:11.960
You find that in the city.

01:40:12.040 --> 01:40:14.560
It's not like it's a myth or something.

01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:15.680
That's the problem.

01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:18.880
Now, we want to focus,
make sure that our South African

01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:23.400
experience, our urban regeneration,
we need to focus on the physical

01:40:23.480 --> 01:40:25.080
effectiveness.

01:40:25.160 --> 01:40:28.720
Also make sure that environmentally we
are responsive.

01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:34.440
But also we do I know that about 75%
of housing or buildings

01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:36.800
which are yet to be built,
they are going to be built in Africa.

01:40:36.880 --> 01:40:42.320
But now the question is, by this, by 2050,
the question is, are we going to build

01:40:42.400 --> 01:40:46.680
more buildings if we're still having
question of urban decay in our cities?

01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:49.240
Why are we even talking about building new
buildings when we've not

01:40:49.320 --> 01:40:51.560
dealt with this problem?

01:40:52.360 --> 01:40:56.160
Now, oh, my God, this is
getting frustrating now.

01:40:56.240 --> 01:41:00.080
Every time I press,
I have to press harder.

01:41:00.400 --> 01:41:02.080
Oh, my gosh.

01:41:02.160 --> 01:41:04.960
Elizabeth, what's going on here?

01:41:09.680 --> 01:41:11.400
Okay.
Now, what is the problem?

01:41:11.480 --> 01:41:15.120
So again, the building that you're looking
at is somewhere not very far

01:41:15.200 --> 01:41:17.920
by the sea in waterfront.

01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:19.920
What is the problem that we're having?

01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:23.320
So in South Africa as a whole,
and this is the number that we know

01:41:23.400 --> 01:41:27.720
at this point, that we have about
338 buildings that have been

01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:29.000
hijacked in South Africa.

01:41:29.080 --> 01:41:32.400
And this is not just Durban, where I'm
based, but it's also in other provinces.

01:41:32.480 --> 01:41:35.680
And this is because these are
the ones that we've counted.

01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:37.680
So we still have more buildings.

01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:41.920
There's chances that we can go up to 700,
even to close to a million.

01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:46.240
But 88 Sorry, that is not a thousand,

01:41:46.320 --> 01:41:50.640
but it's 88 buildings of those buildings.

01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:52.560
They are found in the
province where I'm based.

01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:55.640
Then again, this is based
on what has been counted.

01:41:55.720 --> 01:41:59.760
Now, I'm sure you are asking yourself
that why you keep saying that it's based

01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:04.800
on what you have counted is because we
do not know how many buildings we have.

01:42:04.880 --> 01:42:10.840
I know it's only in South Africa where you
will go and approach a municipal official,

01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:12.520
you ask, who's the owner of that building?

01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:14.920
They will tell you that we don't know.

01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:16.360
And these are not small buildings.

01:42:16.440 --> 01:42:20.320
These are very big buildings,
which are empty, dilapidated

01:42:20.400 --> 01:42:21.640
in a very bad condition.

01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:27.640
So 88 of those that we have counted,
they're in Durban or KZN.

01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:30.600
And it is clear that government,
if you don't They don't know,

01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:34.040
and this is my association,
that if they don't know how many buildings

01:42:34.120 --> 01:42:35.960
they have, then they
don't need them, isn't it?

01:42:36.040 --> 01:42:39.520
Because if they need them,
then they should know what they have

01:42:39.600 --> 01:42:41.680
and what they're going to do with it,
which means there's no plan.

01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:45.840
And that's a source of a concern of mine
to say, and this is what is inspiring

01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:48.240
this study, which I'm engaging in.

01:42:48.320 --> 01:42:51.000
For the past 20 years,
these buildings have

01:42:51.080 --> 01:42:52.120
been standing like this.

01:42:52.200 --> 01:42:56.040
It's not something which happened
yesterday, and it has been

01:42:56.120 --> 01:42:57.360
going on for quite some time.

01:42:57.440 --> 01:42:59.920
These buildings are hijacked.

01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.120
That building which I showed you there,
I indicated it's a real building.

01:43:03.200 --> 01:43:04.200
Oh, good Lord.

01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:05.640
Again, that problem.

01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:07.640
Now, again,
I'm continuing with the problems,

01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:10.760
what you have mentioned earlier on,
is that most people who are occupying

01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:14.520
those buildings, including this one,
this building is just opposite the hub.

01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:17.720
So we have this nice fancy
hub area that we have just recently

01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:22.480
developed or upgraded,
which is connecting with other parts

01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:27.200
in Africa, but also in Europe
in terms of shipment.

01:43:27.280 --> 01:43:30.440
Now,
what's happening is that most of these

01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:32.480
areas, that's the way you find that most
of people who are occupying

01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:35.400
these buildings, obviously,
they are unemployed and they're

01:43:35.480 --> 01:43:37.400
coming from disadvantaged background.

01:43:37.480 --> 01:43:42.120
Now, not only are they not unemployed
and coming from disadvantaged background,

01:43:42.200 --> 01:43:45.600
some of these people, they've got
a lot of children in this place.

01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:49.400
There's someone who was born
there who's today is 20 years old.

01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:51.000
They don't know any other place.

01:43:51.080 --> 01:43:52.760
Their home is something like that.

01:43:52.840 --> 01:43:57.560
Now, if you want to wake up tomorrow
and say you want to now develop this area,

01:43:57.640 --> 01:43:59.560
where do you start from?

01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:01.240
So where are you going to put them?

01:44:01.320 --> 01:44:03.160
Because you don't know where
you're going to put them.

01:44:03.240 --> 01:44:04.480
So it's a mess.

01:44:04.560 --> 01:44:06.040
It's a mess in which we are dealing with.

01:44:06.120 --> 01:44:07.680
So we have disabled children there.

01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:10.600
We have the statistics
of the number of the children.

01:44:10.680 --> 01:44:15.240
One of the book that I just published
recently, when I'm looking at the

01:44:15.320 --> 01:44:20.120
What I call inclusivity of
people living with disabilities,

01:44:20.200 --> 01:44:24.360
actually touch on this
issue, to say, We have so many kids and

01:44:24.440 --> 01:44:27.720
adults who are disabled,
but we're not planning for them.

01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:31.080
So some of them, they are found
in this the dilapidated buildings,

01:44:31.160 --> 01:44:35.120
but also the issues around the electricity
and safety of those buildings.

01:44:35.200 --> 01:44:40.720
I will show you in a moment that recently,
one of the buildings we,

01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:45.360
and I think it's in the next slide,
I might as well go into this building.

01:44:45.440 --> 01:44:48.080
Recently, this building caught fire.

01:44:48.160 --> 01:44:50.960
About 77 people died.

01:44:51.040 --> 01:44:52.760
So you go and check this, it's there.

01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:54.960
It's not like we're
just talking of the sky.

01:44:55.040 --> 01:44:56.240
So people are dying.

01:44:56.320 --> 01:44:59.520
And when I say to you,
the issue of a There's a better renewal

01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:01.240
or a better regeneration in South Africa.

01:45:01.320 --> 01:45:02.320
It's not a nice to have.

01:45:02.400 --> 01:45:05.320
We must do this
if we want to save people's life.

01:45:05.400 --> 01:45:07.880
So about 77 people died.

01:45:07.960 --> 01:45:12.680
And then there was a wake-up call
from everyone, like every seat, everyone,

01:45:12.760 --> 01:45:14.360
almost everyone across the country.

01:45:14.440 --> 01:45:16.560
So, Oh, we You're going
to do something about it.

01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:18.880
You're going to do something
about something that you know.

01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:21.080
At this point, you don't know
how many buildings you have.

01:45:21.160 --> 01:45:23.160
You don't know what are the challenges.

01:45:23.240 --> 01:45:25.480
We don't know how that is
going to work out.

01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:28.640
Of course, some of those buildings,
they are occupied by foreign

01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:30.200
nationals who are undocumented.

01:45:30.280 --> 01:45:33.920
You don't even know who stays there
and what are the social status.

01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:37.720
So it's very hard and difficult,
almost impossible to plan.

01:45:37.800 --> 01:45:38.560
That is the problem.

01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:42.840
Then now I'm about to finish because
I said I'm going to give you problems.

01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:47.400
Now, I did say that then after fire,
then there was this hula-baloo

01:45:47.480 --> 01:45:49.040
that we need to do something.

01:45:49.120 --> 01:45:53.160
And the issue around
gentrification came on board.

01:45:53.240 --> 01:45:54.760
Everyone is talking about it,
even politicians.

01:45:54.840 --> 01:45:57.320
I don't think they've got an idea of what
they were talking about.

01:45:57.400 --> 01:46:00.080
Some of them, they go in the media to say,
This is what we are doing now.

01:46:00.160 --> 01:46:04.160
We are doing now, we are doing
gentrification for our cities.

01:46:04.240 --> 01:46:05.800
Then you ask them what that means.

01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:08.640
Then we had to issue a statement
from the office of the President that this

01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:10.960
is what it means,
and this is not what you guys are doing.

01:46:11.040 --> 01:46:16.160
So South Africa cities are less focused
on trying to upgrade what's happening.

01:46:16.240 --> 01:46:19.120
So we have not post-apartheid,
we have not upgraded our city.

01:46:19.200 --> 01:46:20.800
We have not developed new cities.

01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:24.760
We have developed
some parts of our cities

01:46:24.840 --> 01:46:28.360
and the waterfall, but not at the scale
at which the population is growing.

01:46:28.440 --> 01:46:33.720
And that is a problem on its Then
the other issue is that we have this

01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:35.560
development, which I won't go into detail.

01:46:35.640 --> 01:46:38.880
But this is the development
which is quite fancy.

01:46:38.960 --> 01:46:42.160
If I had known that I'm going to have
an hour, I was going to show you

01:46:42.240 --> 01:46:45.120
the videos, I was going to show the
concept, I was going to show you all that.

01:46:45.200 --> 01:46:50.000
But now I didn't realize that I
will have a very good chair.

01:46:50.080 --> 01:46:51.200
We'll give you an hour.

01:46:51.280 --> 01:46:55.720
But just to say this development is
one of our flagship, it's by the sea.

01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:58.000
If you go in Germany,
it's a very beautiful place,

01:46:58.080 --> 01:47:02.680
very fancy with water,
all that concept green around there.

01:47:02.760 --> 01:47:06.200
But the problem about it is that when you
go to this place,

01:47:06.280 --> 01:47:10.840
when you go to this area, the area that
you pass still, again, is dilapidated.

01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:13.720
Then you pass through
that place which is dilapidated.

01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:17.160
Then you go to this very fancy It's
a crazy place that is very

01:47:17.240 --> 01:47:18.600
beautiful, very expensive.

01:47:18.680 --> 01:47:22.880
Now, you have people over about
the estimated,

01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:29.160
last time I checked the statistics
was that about 32% of our youth,

01:47:29.240 --> 01:47:31.840
they are unemployed,
but also they are on the street,

01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:33.080
which means they don't have a home.

01:47:33.160 --> 01:47:37.600
Now, you go and develop area by the sea,
very expensive apartment

01:47:37.680 --> 01:47:39.480
nobody can afford.

01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:44.120
You still have the very same people
who you're supposed to be planning

01:47:44.200 --> 01:47:47.960
for sleeping on the street,
including going to those apartments

01:47:48.040 --> 01:47:51.080
that you've built, because now
they have to sleep on the street.

01:47:51.160 --> 01:47:52.200
That's the problem.

01:47:52.280 --> 01:47:53.960
There's a low occupancy rate.

01:47:54.040 --> 01:47:57.640
Those apartments are not fully occupied.

01:47:57.720 --> 01:48:01.040
We're talking about less than 50 %.

01:48:01.120 --> 01:48:04.720
This apartment has been there for over 10
years, as I remember them,

01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:06.400
but we're talking about 50 %.

01:48:06.480 --> 01:48:11.000
And most of them, actually, they're
mostly focusing on holiday apartments.

01:48:11.080 --> 01:48:14.600
That is how we are trying to solve
the problem, but we have

01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:16.600
not solved the problem.

01:48:17.480 --> 01:48:20.280
Now, oh, good Lord, again, it's not me.

01:48:20.360 --> 01:48:23.960
Please, this time I'm
pressing, don't count it.

01:48:24.040 --> 01:48:24.960
It's not my problem.

01:48:25.040 --> 01:48:28.400
Yeah, so now what
happened then after fire?

01:48:28.480 --> 01:48:30.080
Obviously, what you are
seeing, this is real.

01:48:30.160 --> 01:48:33.120
In South Africa,
we have what we call special segregation

01:48:33.200 --> 01:48:36.720
planning, where you find that this other
part of the country within the same

01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:41.120
region, within the same district or
municipality, is well done, well planned

01:48:41.200 --> 01:48:43.440
with resources, and this is more greener.

01:48:43.520 --> 01:48:48.320
When they say grass is So now on the other
side, this is what they're talking about.

01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:51.880
It's real, literally, non-party intended.

01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:53.400
Then you can see this other side.

01:48:53.480 --> 01:48:59.200
Now, there's been a lot of issues around
development happening here.

01:48:59.280 --> 01:49:01.960
The number of development,
buildings, and all that.

01:49:02.040 --> 01:49:07.240
And people who feed these people in terms
of manpower, assisting,

01:49:07.320 --> 01:49:09.040
cleaning are coming from here.

01:49:09.120 --> 01:49:15.160
Now, if you're going to have a high income
area, and I've been on record in the The

01:49:15.240 --> 01:49:17.600
idea of talking about these issues,
even writing about it,

01:49:17.680 --> 01:49:21.600
if you're going to have a development
of this nature,

01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:27.560
and you expect these people here for me
to be here, I need to have a helper who's

01:49:27.640 --> 01:49:29.320
supposed to be assisting
me, who's supposed to...

01:49:29.400 --> 01:49:31.400
I'm career person.

01:49:31.480 --> 01:49:36.600
Now, these people, how are they going
to get assistance from these people here?

01:49:36.680 --> 01:49:40.480
So these people, they need to be closer
to work like anybody else, isn't it?

01:49:40.560 --> 01:49:43.120
And this makes perfect sense to them.

01:49:43.200 --> 01:49:48.360
So if it means that they're going to be
in an open areas and in a formal

01:49:48.440 --> 01:49:51.960
settlement, they will do everything
and nothing to be closer to the work.

01:49:52.040 --> 01:49:56.440
Now, the point I'm trying to raise is
that our development are market-led,

01:49:56.520 --> 01:50:00.200
and we say very little about people
who cannot afford, yet we

01:50:00.280 --> 01:50:01.480
depend on their survivor.

01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:06.480
We do know that South Africans,
about 75% of working class women,

01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:09.640
each of them, they've got a helper,
a full-time helper.

01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:11.880
Where is that helper coming from?

01:50:11.960 --> 01:50:14.280
They have to be closer to work.
This is what's happening.

01:50:14.360 --> 01:50:17.840
We come up with development
we cannot afford.

01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:23.000
Then also with this issue
around the infrastructure.

01:50:23.080 --> 01:50:27.600
What would they consider urban
regeneration in some instances,

01:50:27.680 --> 01:50:33.400
it's more physical based on building roads
and some form of buildings.

01:50:33.480 --> 01:50:38.520
But we have not addressed the core needs
of South Africans, which is to deal

01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:42.360
with their facilities, their home income.
Trust me.

01:50:42.440 --> 01:50:44.400
Oh, you see?

01:50:44.960 --> 01:50:47.520
No, that is wrong.

01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:49.560
That's not me.
I'm going back.

01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:51.400
That's not me.

01:50:51.480 --> 01:50:52.080
But I'm not verifying.

01:50:52.160 --> 01:50:55.000
We have not dealt with the
issue of the health care.

01:50:55.080 --> 01:50:56.600
We have not dealt with
the issue of education.

01:50:56.680 --> 01:50:59.040
We have not dealt with the
issue of social support.

01:50:59.120 --> 01:51:01.880
Because even if you
give us very good rules.

01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:04.640
How are we going to access health care?

01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:07.000
Do we have the resources?
Do people have the resources?

01:51:07.080 --> 01:51:11.400
The education, the quality
of education also becomes a problem.

01:51:11.480 --> 01:51:16.880
Now, second to the last,
Then now, after this

01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:22.880
post-fire and there's been a lot of
noise, we need to do something.

01:51:22.960 --> 01:51:28.160
Then the city manager released a statement
that they are having

01:51:28.240 --> 01:51:32.520
an Inner City Regeneration Program And
of that program,

01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:37.160
there is going to be vibrant inclusivity
and economic prosperity.

01:51:37.240 --> 01:51:42.040
Now, then they go on the said they
already have this development about 20.

01:51:42.120 --> 01:51:44.320
Trust me, I was in Durban
before I came here.

01:51:44.400 --> 01:51:44.800
I drove around.

01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:47.600
I wanted to be sure
of what I'm talking about.

01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:48.720
I drove around.

01:51:48.800 --> 01:51:51.160
I didn't see all these buildings they're
talking about that they've

01:51:51.240 --> 01:51:52.560
already done 20 %.

01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:54.720
Now, this is a problem
that we are dealing with.

01:51:54.800 --> 01:52:00.040
How do you deal with people who are trying
to balance honesty and actually

01:52:00.120 --> 01:52:01.280
delivering services to the people?

01:52:01.360 --> 01:52:04.960
Now, what's happening now,
and this is towards my conclusion now,

01:52:05.040 --> 01:52:07.560
is that we do not have the strategy.

01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:10.240
And this is where my job comes in.

01:52:10.320 --> 01:52:13.720
Oh, God.

01:52:13.800 --> 01:52:17.640
At one point, I was very fast,
but now I'm very slow.

01:52:17.720 --> 01:52:22.680
Now they're saying that they have
mentioned about 22 buildings.

01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:25.320
They said they've done them,
they've already refurbished them.

01:52:25.400 --> 01:52:31.280
Then they talk about another
20 to be worked Then one of the solutions,

01:52:31.360 --> 01:52:35.480
they're saying that they've given
the owner's rep, plastic rep,

01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:37.760
where you rep your building.
What do you call them?

01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:38.960
Where you rep your building.

01:52:39.040 --> 01:52:42.560
They said the reason behind of doing
that is because they want them to be able

01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:44.280
to advertise so then
they can pay the rates.

01:52:44.360 --> 01:52:46.360
Is that really urban renewal?

01:52:46.440 --> 01:52:49.080
Giving people things
to rep their buildings.

01:52:49.160 --> 01:52:53.200
And you say, Now it's going to look
niche because you have rep your building.

01:52:53.280 --> 01:52:58.800
Then now you can start paying
rates and all those things.

01:52:58.880 --> 01:53:01.480
So then this tells us,
then there's a problem.

01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:05.000
We have a crisis in South Africa,
and we need to address this.

01:53:05.080 --> 01:53:06.960
And how are we planning to address this?

01:53:07.040 --> 01:53:11.480
This is the conclusion, right?

01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:14.920
So how are we planning to address this?

01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:17.400
Okay, I'm just going to talk off ahead.

01:53:17.480 --> 01:53:22.360
As part of my job
as

01:53:22.440 --> 01:53:26.080
the advisor at the office of the President
is that we're now developing a

01:53:26.160 --> 01:53:27.600
framework, obviously it's not here.

01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:30.200
We're now developing a
framework at which we are going to use

01:53:30.280 --> 01:53:34.600
to guide development in terms of benre
regeneration in the country,

01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:38.760
because it's quite clear at this point
that everyone is doing what they want

01:53:38.840 --> 01:53:42.400
to do, and whether that makes
sense or not, they're doing it.

01:53:42.480 --> 01:53:45.720
But the bottom line is that issue around
a better generation

01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:48.720
in South Africa is urgent.
It's not a nice to have.

01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:53.440
We must have this framework to be able
to guide, and we need a national strategy,

01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:55.920
and this is
part of what I'm working on now

01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:59.320
with colleagues, a national strategy
at the Office of the presidency.

01:53:59.400 --> 01:54:04.680
But also we want to know
that we cannot be reactive.

01:54:04.760 --> 01:54:06.440
We need to be intentional about it.

01:54:06.520 --> 01:54:08.240
Our planning needs to be intentional.

01:54:08.320 --> 01:54:11.280
If we want to do a better generation,
we need to be intentional about it.

01:54:11.360 --> 01:54:14.360
We either rejuvenate our cities
or we die with our cities.

01:54:14.440 --> 01:54:24.200
Thank you very much for this session

01:54:24.280 --> 01:54:26.640
and for all these presentations.

01:54:26.720 --> 01:54:29.600
Ladies and gentlemen, coffee break.