WEBVTT 00:00:11.200 --> 00:00:19.000 I was asked to be here on the stage because of the camera and I would 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:23.760 like then those who will answer the question from the auditorium 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:27.960 to follow me here on the stage. 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:36.600 Today afternoon, we will again travel around the world, collecting 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:43.960 the experiences from the practices in the implementation of 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:48.560 different approaches and measures, the urban transformation. 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:56.680 We will start in London and finish on the other side of the Europe, 00:00:57.040 --> 00:01:01.320 in Turkey, in Turkey now. 00:01:02.120 --> 00:01:08.240 So please, we will start with the first presentation with this, 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:13.000 which is about climate change and social cohesion is catalyzed 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:16.480 for changes in development plans and special order. 00:01:17.360 --> 00:01:21.600 And this voice will be from London, been presented in person 00:01:21.880 --> 00:01:24.640 here by the colleague Anushka Zimnitska. 00:01:25.160 --> 00:01:26.560 So please, the floor is yours. 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:27.640 Can you hear me? 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:31.400 Good afternoon. 00:01:31.440 --> 00:01:36.680 I'm Anushka Zimnitska and I came to you from London. 00:01:42.530 --> 00:01:48.410 I work at the London Borough of Tower Hamlets and my responsibility 00:01:48.410 --> 00:01:53.170 and capacities there is that show manager. 00:01:53.450 --> 00:01:59.410 But owing to the invitation of our colleagues from here, I also 00:01:59.410 --> 00:02:05.120 teach at the Glance University of Technology at the Faculty 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.960 of Architecture, and I would like to guide you through the topic 00:02:07.960 --> 00:02:14.040 of climate change and first and foremost, its impact on social 00:02:14.040 --> 00:02:14.600 cohesion. 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:22.200 I will illustrate it with my neighborhood that is Tower Hamlets. 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:29.000 This is the plan of London Borough of Tower Hamlets, and you can 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:32.520 see it in the middle that's been adopted in twenty twenty one 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:37.480 You can see the growth areas, those colorful ones, mostly going 00:02:37.480 --> 00:02:40.760 along the transportation corridors. 00:02:40.760 --> 00:02:43.520 And they are of course related to infrastructural projects 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:45.040 that are in the pipeline. 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:51.760 And I'm going to boast because a few months ago the biggest infrastructural 00:02:51.760 --> 00:02:56.840 investment of the last decade in London came to a successful 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:57.480 fruition. 00:02:57.480 --> 00:03:01.600 That's the so called elizabeth 's line that is a railway line 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:10.040 that cuts through london and that connects also the adjacent 00:03:10.040 --> 00:03:17.480 neighbourhoods on both sides This investment was initiated 00:03:17.760 --> 00:03:21.320 in terms of its physical, physical. 00:03:21.320 --> 00:03:22.720 It's a starting point. 00:03:22.720 --> 00:03:26.640 It started in Tower Hamlets within the new station at Canary 00:03:26.640 --> 00:03:27.920 Wharf was built. 00:03:27.920 --> 00:03:29.960 You can see the image of it on the right hand side. 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:33.760 That's a new station, multifunctional one not just with a commercial 00:03:33.760 --> 00:03:37.120 function but also with the one of a public park. 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:44.680 And this investment, it used to be called Crossrail, contributed 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:51.920 to the changes in the structure of central London infrastructure. 00:03:51.920 --> 00:03:56.400 Mostly because forty two kilometers of this line are situated 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:02.520 underground, ten new stations were built, but also old stations 00:04:02.640 --> 00:04:04.120 underwent modernizing. 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:09.280 For example, Tottenham Court Road is in an instance here an example. 00:04:09.600 --> 00:04:13.080 It's was endowed with a new image. 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.040 It has become far more ergonomic. 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:20.440 But also this investment was connected with the regeneration 00:04:20.440 --> 00:04:23.720 and RE construction of the whole neighborhood of the station 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:25.480 Hamlets. 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:31.880 Hamlets is a lucky owner now of three such stations of this 00:04:32.840 --> 00:04:36.400 railway that is highly efficient. 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:43.560 In the Liverpool Street you've got one such stations. 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.280 There are two other locations where Chapel and Canary Wharf. 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:52.240 This is why we have the three stations that play a major role related 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:59.600 to social integration and building the the social inequalities. 00:04:59.880 --> 00:05:04.160 Now at the top left and corner you can see White Chapel station 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:07.600 in the social and economic infrastructure. 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:13.480 We are dealing here with a patchwork area area in which affluent 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.720 areas interwoven into the Tashia. 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:25.360 Very poor ones, very often, they knew replaces the traditional 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:31.400 for example, the market, white Chapel, the local community, 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:37.520 mostly coming from Bangladesh, trades and everything. 00:05:37.840 --> 00:05:42.520 That's one of the most colourful spots on the map of London. 00:05:42.520 --> 00:05:46.480 On the other hand, we've got the Canary Wharf station. 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:54.120 It is located in the northern part of this district and as you 00:05:54.120 --> 00:06:02.280 can see, there is a chance for investment activities after Elizabeth 00:06:02.280 --> 00:06:09.000 Lyon has been completed to bring about positive changes that 00:06:09.080 --> 00:06:13.400 the inhabitants of the northern part can benefit from South. 00:06:14.440 --> 00:06:19.240 These differences are not just the differences between poverty, 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:25.240 new opportunities and the rich ones, but it's also about actually 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:26.280 ability to survive. 00:06:26.280 --> 00:06:29.680 What you can see here is a juxtaposition of the map poverty. 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:35.280 The darker the colour, the more issues a given area suffers. 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:43.600 And the right hand side map shows the deaths I need to the COVID 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:44.240 pandemic. 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:48.960 So it's not just about well being but it's also about the ability 00:06:48.960 --> 00:06:56.120 to survive In what way can this kind of an investment be tarnished 00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:00.160 and returned into something really beneficial? 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:06.040 When the spatial restructuring took place around the stations. 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:09.160 Also, a number of new public spaces were created, available 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:09.960 to everybody. 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:15.840 They also enrich the urban developments around it. 00:07:15.840 --> 00:07:20.600 You can see the Exchange Square next to Liverpool Street, but 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:25.680 even more importantly, owing to those fast rail connections 00:07:26.440 --> 00:07:31.360 with various parts of the city, the neighborhood, that White 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:39.160 Chapel district itself also got a bank investment bust. 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.480 We as the office changed our seat. 00:07:43.280 --> 00:07:51.320 We are now located in a renovated hospital from the nineteenth 00:07:51.320 --> 00:07:51.920 century. 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:58.400 We carry out a number of tasks whose goal is to improve the public 00:07:58.400 --> 00:07:58.920 space. 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:04.200 There is a medical cluster of the hospital that I mentioned and 00:08:04.200 --> 00:08:08.640 also medical and research faculty of the Queen Mary University 00:08:08.640 --> 00:08:09.400 at Whitechapel. 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:19.400 And on this basis the Center of Life Sciences is now being built. 00:08:19.400 --> 00:08:25.720 What is also planned and actually the first common stone was 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:31.760 already placed in the ground for further developments around 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:37.160 so as to increase the educational opportunities and giving 00:08:38.520 --> 00:08:43.400 access to the opportunities and education to the children of 00:08:43.400 --> 00:08:44.440 the migrants. 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.520 They can now be hopeful of having an easy life of their parents. 00:08:48.920 --> 00:08:52.800 So this is Elizabeth line actually all the investors around 00:08:52.800 --> 00:08:54.240 London chipped in. 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.160 There was a financing instrument that was called Community 00:08:58.160 --> 00:08:59.120 Infrastructure Levy. 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:05.600 The Mayor of London taxed all the investments everyday. 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:11.480 Local tax and it's height depended on the location, so on how 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:16.760 far away you are from Crosswale impact, so from Elizabeth Lane. 00:09:16.760 --> 00:09:22.840 But also the tax depended on on the size, the curvature of those 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:24.720 new investments is how they're going to be used. 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:29.120 Another example is a different infrastructure investment, 00:09:30.680 --> 00:09:37.640 one that was completed two years ago and it was an extension of 00:09:37.640 --> 00:09:40.520 the Northern Line underground line. 00:09:41.160 --> 00:09:42.600 two new stations were added. 00:09:43.560 --> 00:09:48.520 These stations were American Embassy is located at one of them 00:09:48.520 --> 00:09:55.640 and also the very famous Battersea Palace station building 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.280 was also renovated. 00:09:58.280 --> 00:10:03.280 So they became the drivers for the regeneration of post industrial 00:10:03.280 --> 00:10:13.080 areas in Vauxhall, Nanos and Battersea areas due to the high 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:17.880 costs of rejuvenation of historic buildings and over two hundred 00:10:17.880 --> 00:10:22.800 and fifty million of developers contribution into the extension 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:32.880 of the new underground line The entire area and it's magnitude 00:10:32.880 --> 00:10:37.160 of twenty thousand new residential spacious twenty thousand 00:10:37.160 --> 00:10:43.240 new jobs and new cultural centres and so on and so forth ensures 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:48.120 now just nine percent of the so called accessible flats So those 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:51.520 potentially accessible to an average Londoner. 00:10:52.800 --> 00:10:57.960 So they come together with their sold or leased out in the market 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.800 at the price that is lower than the market one and that's owing 00:11:00.800 --> 00:11:02.080 to the governmental grants. 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:06.920 nine percent is relatively little very little which makes this 00:11:06.920 --> 00:11:15.240 area a rather posh one as is exclusive And you can see that, well, 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:18.160 it can be painfully exclusive. 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.560 As I mentioned the luxury and actually excessive luxury. 00:11:22.560 --> 00:11:28.760 You can see a swimming pool suspended between two skyscrapers. 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:39.360 As for the public areas, this developer is doing a lot to activate 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:43.520 them and to make them available to any inhabitant. 00:11:43.520 --> 00:11:47.960 But actually this is an area that is completely new in the structure 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:54.960 of the city, both in terms of the new buildings and and socially. 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:59.600 This is an area that is isolated, socially isolated. 00:12:01.800 --> 00:12:06.000 In other words, the properties here belong to millionaires only. 00:12:09.800 --> 00:12:17.520 The areas that London has not recognized as those of intensive 00:12:17.520 --> 00:12:22.760 development are those of modernist housing estates, Of course, 00:12:23.760 --> 00:12:33.080 following the raids of London, or they experienced a housing 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:33.560 boom. 00:12:33.560 --> 00:12:41.160 And in tan Hamlets we've got one of the biggest, greatest density 00:12:41.160 --> 00:12:45.480 of such housing estates that were built with social residents 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:46.040 in mind. 00:12:46.040 --> 00:12:48.440 So we've got social flats there. 00:12:49.280 --> 00:12:53.200 Some of them were bought out after Mother Touches revolution 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:58.080 in the eighties of the twentieth century and these housing estates 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.280 are coming to an end of their existence. 00:13:05.400 --> 00:13:12.400 Of course, activities and measures are taken to modernize the 00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:17.360 infrastructure of some insulation extensions filling the 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.360 the gaps and so on. 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:25.840 But undoubtedly some of these housing estates are awaiting 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:32.240 a big decision on them being built anew. 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:37.040 Actually, there is a painful regeneration lesson and that is 00:13:37.040 --> 00:13:44.960 the one of Hager estate that regeneration was supposed to be 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.440 supported with the invisible hand of the market. 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:53.160 As a result of that, actually none of the families that had spot 00:13:53.160 --> 00:14:02.280 out their floods found another flat, even in the vicinity of 00:14:02.280 --> 00:14:04.480 the Suffolk district where it all happened. 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:11.600 As for the tenants or local governments will need to find 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.160 social flats for the inhabitants, but well, so here the situation 00:14:16.160 --> 00:14:17.080 is slightly better. 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:22.480 But again, I've heard that really there are a few people who moved 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.800 back, so they moved out and never returned. 00:14:24.800 --> 00:14:31.000 And actually this regeneration process wasn't a way, a way to 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:36.120 actually will gentrify the area and that was a cleansing in a 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:37.040 in a way. 00:14:37.280 --> 00:14:42.480 And the first stage of this regeneration at the in the area, one 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:47.840 hundred percent of private flats were sold not for to londoners 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:55.200 but to those living in the far east So oftentimes the 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.600 completely different continent. 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.080 The first phase, sixteen percent of the flats built were social 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:07.240 ones That was increased by Suffolk local government that draw 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:09.920 a lesson from the first phase. 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:11.800 That was quite a painful lesson. 00:15:12.160 --> 00:15:16.680 So further generation stages were carried out with a greater 00:15:16.680 --> 00:15:18.520 emphasis on social benefits. 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:25.320 Benefits for social for for local communities and the share 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:30.240 of accessible flats was increased, now reaching twenty five 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:35.360 percent That was the very first experience. 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:39.560 It had a broad coverage and it was pretty shocking for Londoners. 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:47.960 So town Hamlets definitely drew conclusions, and when we're 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:56.960 generating the first housing estate, attempts were made to 00:15:57.760 --> 00:15:58.840 have it listed. 00:15:59.040 --> 00:16:02.560 I'm talking about Robin Hood Gardens, the Bridge list monument. 00:16:02.560 --> 00:16:06.640 So to be found, those attempts to have it listed failed. 00:16:06.640 --> 00:16:14.800 So it's visually attractive, but still it did not work as a social 00:16:16.040 --> 00:16:17.240 unit, so to speak. 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:23.200 And hear the local government decided to run an investment. 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:34.000 A developer has been appointed and every owner flat owner has 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:42.880 a right for the value of their apartment to be counted as the 00:16:42.880 --> 00:16:45.720 initial payment for the modernized flat. 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:51.200 And they get a a bonus for every year of actually staying in the 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:56.280 flat, which means that after ten years they can become owners. 00:16:56.720 --> 00:17:01.480 And so these conditions are really favourable and any regeneration 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:10.160 of households is related to an increasing density of the developments. 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.600 There is also a big revolution in approaching regeneration 00:17:14.600 --> 00:17:19.720 of housing estates that resulted from an ordinance of a Mayor 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:22.840 of London who said that without a referendum covering all the 00:17:22.840 --> 00:17:28.280 inhabitants with owners or tenants of flats in such households, 00:17:28.560 --> 00:17:35.280 and without their consent to such a total regeneration, no measures 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:38.440 can be taken and first they should be given an offer that they 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:39.360 could vote on. 00:17:40.600 --> 00:17:44.680 So it became clear that otherwise the such regeneration programmes 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:47.800 would not be supported from public resources. 00:17:48.080 --> 00:17:52.440 So the Hamlets, unfortunately again the microphone is dead 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.640 as it appears, so we cannot hear the speaker in the booth. 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:10.680 The mic is on again. 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:11.400 So we're back. 00:18:15.800 --> 00:18:21.360 Over the last five years we've had five such referendums carried 00:18:21.360 --> 00:18:28.800 out and these requirements are stipulated by the Mayor and his 00:18:28.800 --> 00:18:33.440 ordinance mean that all the examples you can see by the way, all 00:18:33.800 --> 00:18:39.080 being those from Tower Hamlet are related with to Co designing. 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:42.920 So even prior to the referendum, the inhabitants are invited 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:49.600 to have their say to say and what they get as an offer is actually 00:18:49.600 --> 00:18:55.280 a result of common work with them that precedes the referendum. 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:05.880 Those new programs finish on three five or ten fold increase 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:13.560 in the density so even ten times as many inhabitants live in the 00:19:13.560 --> 00:19:18.160 area which means that of course high story buildings have to 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:25.080 be erected in our hamlets We've had a longer record of of building 00:19:25.080 --> 00:19:27.320 and living in such buildings. 00:19:28.280 --> 00:19:33.240 So we prepared an additional planning document concerning 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:39.440 the designing of the residential high raised buildings and 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:45.640 we've prepared it on the basis of a two year process of exploring 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:54.400 and serving the opinion of the long term inhabitants of the buildings 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:55.160 of this kind. 00:19:55.760 --> 00:19:59.040 Another thing, and I'm getting to an end, are publicly available 00:19:59.040 --> 00:19:59.640 spaces. 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:03.040 Spaces for everybody where people can join and integrate within. 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.600 And the forerunner here was the City of London, that in its plan 00:20:08.760 --> 00:20:14.160 in I believe two thousand and fifteen introduced a requirement 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:18.280 to all non residential investors and there are the majority 00:20:18.280 --> 00:20:22.560 in the city of london The ground floors and roofs should be open 00:20:22.560 --> 00:20:26.960 to the general public, so they should be made generally available. 00:20:30.360 --> 00:20:35.880 Consume more and more buildings really offer some services 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.360 in the ground, for there are more and more terraces. 00:20:38.360 --> 00:20:41.960 Actually, practically speaking, any new building has a terrace 00:20:42.600 --> 00:20:48.320 that is then made available to anybody and the pandemic has shown 00:20:48.320 --> 00:20:53.280 how important those public spaces were and how important this 00:20:53.280 --> 00:20:55.360 activity our outdoors is. 00:20:56.080 --> 00:21:02.520 So all of a sudden our East End shabby Sheikh, that is this kind 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:08.880 of artistic chaos related with colour and temporary establishments 00:21:09.120 --> 00:21:11.080 have become commonplace. 00:21:11.080 --> 00:21:13.800 You see there is a drawing lesson outdoors. 00:21:13.800 --> 00:21:20.240 We've got colours closing the streets with with some artifacts 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:24.080 that are maybe not top dodge but well they're handmade and this 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:26.480 is something that has spread over London. 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:31.000 And then finally on climate changes, well obviously in such 00:21:31.040 --> 00:21:38.320 a big city we talk about overheating and we talk about managing 00:21:38.760 --> 00:21:41.640 rainwater, we talk about counteracting floods. 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:50.720 There are measures envisaged in plans, but our Hamlets is one 00:21:50.800 --> 00:22:03.480 of the pilot districts for integrated programs of water management 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.960 infrastructure extension in the spirit of net zero. 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:13.440 So how to get to us becoming like carbon neutral commune and regaining 00:22:14.800 --> 00:22:21.440 the areas for nature has become maybe not something that is 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.800 really frequent, but there are some examples where we have a 00:22:24.840 --> 00:22:29.400 river that used to be managed in human control. 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:33.760 It has become open that resulted in a greater biodiversity. 00:22:33.760 --> 00:22:37.280 It is also possible to retain possible floods. 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:39.440 And here are Olympic areas. 00:22:40.280 --> 00:22:45.080 This is also partially an area belonging to Tower Hamlets. 00:22:45.080 --> 00:22:46.600 It's also Olympic areas. 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:52.480 Investments related to the Olympic Games have created an opportunity 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:57.720 for some of the area to be regained for nature. 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:00.480 It used to be heavily industrialized. 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.840 You can see those green air, green pictures and well they they 00:23:03.840 --> 00:23:07.600 they show London and there's not provincial London and some 00:23:07.600 --> 00:23:07.800 up. 00:23:07.800 --> 00:23:12.440 I'd say that well a lot is being said about what we've been doing 00:23:13.840 --> 00:23:15.400 in terms of new investments. 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:24.360 So we are planning what they should be like, but the climatic 00:23:24.360 --> 00:23:27.480 goals cannot be obtained by means of new investments only There, 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:33.880 there have to be measures that will entice or even force the existing 00:23:34.760 --> 00:23:43.360 owners, property owners, to modernize their properties and 00:23:43.360 --> 00:23:45.960 to reintroduce nature in their areas. 00:23:46.760 --> 00:23:54.560 Now we are trying to implement that terms two thousand and one 00:23:54.560 --> 00:24:01.520 hundred program that focuses on anti flood measures in the 00:24:01.520 --> 00:24:09.320 terms estuary and this is something that is voluntary And as 00:24:09.320 --> 00:24:15.280 you can imagine, we are still not ready to take what the future 00:24:15.280 --> 00:24:16.960 holds in terms of water in the city. 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.440 Thank you very much, Chenko. 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:24.320 Embarazonishka, thank you very much. 00:24:24.760 --> 00:24:30.080 Ground in London and the second underground in Europe was in Budapest. 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:35.040 So I am very happy to continue with the second presentation from 00:24:35.040 --> 00:24:37.000 Budapest and Zoltan is here. 00:24:37.280 --> 00:24:42.440 So Tashik Baranchal, thank you very much for being here and I 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:47.040 am very glad that we have professional friends and professional 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:48.720 audience here. 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:56.320 I try to explain few facts and a few stories about Budapest brownfield 00:24:56.360 --> 00:24:56.840 areas. 00:24:57.760 --> 00:25:02.520 Normally we think that the brownfield areas are the gold reserve 00:25:02.600 --> 00:25:04.240 of a city. 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:10.080 They are the gold reserve of a a strongly built in and densely 00:25:10.080 --> 00:25:14.360 built in area when we are looking for new places. 00:25:16.840 --> 00:25:24.960 Now I have to show the map of Budapest and I have to refer some figures. 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:30.480 Budapest is was two millions in the eighties now it is one point 00:25:30.520 --> 00:25:35.160 eight millions two hundred thousand people were lost from the 00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:40.720 city from from inside the city but they appeared in the outskirts 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:46.160 So let's say that the agglomeration of Budapest has a figure 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.000 of two and a half million, and it is a stable one. 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:54.960 But in the future we are thinking that we have to fight against 00:25:55.040 --> 00:26:02.080 the communication and the and the the everyday congestion on 00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:06.040 the roads and on the trains approaching the city. 00:26:06.560 --> 00:26:15.560 So we try to offer some so called dense structure with 00:26:15.600 --> 00:26:21.200 the provision of new land for developments within the city On 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.840 the picture you see the brownfield areas around that we have 00:26:25.840 --> 00:26:32.720 got from the so called socialism In nineteen ninety a lot of these 00:26:32.760 --> 00:26:38.560 industrial areas and railway areas were run down Not only railway 00:26:38.560 --> 00:26:43.800 but we had two army barrack system, the Hungarian and the Russian, 00:26:45.280 --> 00:26:53.080 that were left after nineteen ninety So we have got a series of 00:26:53.080 --> 00:27:00.440 brownfields, but only those who had better positions. 00:27:00.840 --> 00:27:05.600 For example at the Danube Bank, for example, on the Buddha side 00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:10.920 where we have historically more prestigious residential RS 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:16.840 They have developed, They had the force, they had the the engine 00:27:17.280 --> 00:27:23.160 to go on and to develop themselves and to provide high quality 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:29.600 RS For example, this is a a park area in the middle of Buddha. 00:27:30.080 --> 00:27:38.360 This is an office area, but very, very high tech office series 00:27:38.360 --> 00:27:41.080 we had at the gas factory of UDA. 00:27:41.840 --> 00:27:49.080 This is a newly built area and this is a ladder factory renewed 00:27:49.280 --> 00:27:50.840 in the positive way. 00:27:51.320 --> 00:27:54.720 So these are the success stories, but I don't want to speak about 00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:55.040 them. 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:01.280 I am interested much more about those who are not running, who 00:28:01.280 --> 00:28:05.920 are stalled a little bit and who are or future task. 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:13.160 For example, one of our gold reserve number one is called Rakash 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:14.880 and there's a marshalling yard. 00:28:15.280 --> 00:28:20.520 Originally that was a huge marshalling yard for the state railways 00:28:20.840 --> 00:28:21.800 on this area. 00:28:22.520 --> 00:28:24.480 They have already got the tracks. 00:28:24.760 --> 00:28:26.880 We have these tracks but they are empty. 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:33.440 One track is only working over there or or two tracks and it is 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:35.240 quite close to the city centre. 00:28:35.520 --> 00:28:42.880 So we hope that it is a very well operable development area. 00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:47.560 At the moment it is in the state, it is in the hand of the state, 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.320 so fortunately it is not privatised yet. 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.040 What we need to have a kind of master plan. 00:28:56.040 --> 00:29:02.440 What we need to have a common knowledge about the future of this era. 00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.280 What do we want to do with this? 00:29:05.320 --> 00:29:12.560 First of all, we have to to to develop the public transport system. 00:29:12.600 --> 00:29:20.080 This is the elongation of the second underground underworld, 00:29:21.360 --> 00:29:25.280 this metro number one of Budapest. 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.920 But we have a news railway station over this point which is going 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.000 to be the heart of a new town. 00:29:33.600 --> 00:29:37.400 Whether it will look like this or not, I don't know, because at 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.320 the moment nobody plans it. 00:29:41.360 --> 00:29:48.200 This is a plan of a state agency that owned the area, so it is 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.360 only a proposition. 00:29:49.520 --> 00:29:52.120 The question is who will do what? 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:58.800 What will be made before the the new railway lines, the new tram 00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:00.760 lines and the new infrastructure? 00:30:01.120 --> 00:30:05.320 Or we shall go ahead with a certain project? 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.720 We have another interesting and very close area to the city centre. 00:30:11.360 --> 00:30:18.640 That's the so called cubano street which is originally a railway 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:23.840 factory on this area railway workshop on this area and the railway 00:30:23.840 --> 00:30:31.280 station on this area The story is that this part of the site is 00:30:31.280 --> 00:30:33.200 in the hand of the Hungarian state. 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:39.680 So we can do something with this because because it is quite obviously 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:45.600 can be used on this area which was the so called gunsmart factory 00:30:45.600 --> 00:30:50.280 Perhaps some of them knows the products on the railway tracks. 00:30:51.280 --> 00:30:57.200 That was a very famous and A and a fantastic factory not working 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:57.760 today. 00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:04.200 It has more than three hundred owners most of them chinese who 00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:10.480 owns this area and used as a commercial area The railway station 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:19.520 itself was altered to be a memorial for the Jewish Holocaust. 00:31:19.520 --> 00:31:23.400 So this is a a kind of museum building. 00:31:24.560 --> 00:31:30.320 On this area the state agency proposed a residential area, while 00:31:31.080 --> 00:31:36.480 along the street we have offices and here we have a so called football 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.640 academy which is a very popular thing at the moment in hungary 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:46.160 Although the result of the education is not always visible on 00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:54.120 the matches, but but that that, that can be a nice final product 00:31:54.120 --> 00:31:55.080 of the development. 00:31:57.360 --> 00:32:02.120 Perhaps we we don't like this green colouring because it is only 00:32:02.120 --> 00:32:08.040 plastic so it has no biological value this area, but in general 00:32:08.360 --> 00:32:16.960 that can be a good future vision for the area if we want it is 00:32:17.120 --> 00:32:22.360 it is this master plan is designed with blue and green infrastructure 00:32:22.760 --> 00:32:29.240 and I think that they are on a high level what we have already done 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:33.960 and it is on the other part of the of the road at the railway workshop. 00:32:34.360 --> 00:32:42.560 This is one of the original buildings kept as a cultural centre, 00:32:43.040 --> 00:32:47.760 so called workshop house of the national opera with some stage 00:32:47.760 --> 00:32:55.480 and and auditorium with workshops for for ropes and sceneries 00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.320 and everything that is needed in the opera and even even with 00:32:59.320 --> 00:33:05.440 some remembrance of the of the railway industry But in the neighbourhood 00:33:05.760 --> 00:33:07.800 it is a new proposition. 00:33:08.040 --> 00:33:13.400 The so called diesel hall which can be seen here will be the new 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:18.120 place for the museum of transport because the museum of transport 00:33:18.120 --> 00:33:24.200 was a small one in a in the city park and we are very happy that it 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:30.320 wants to come over here There was an international competition 00:33:30.600 --> 00:33:35.840 won by the New York Builders, Scofidio and Renfro Company and 00:33:35.840 --> 00:33:36.320 Davis. 00:33:36.320 --> 00:33:44.680 The Hungarian team have made projects for the new place, but 00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:50.040 on the other side that I have shown you about the railway factory, 00:33:50.560 --> 00:33:53.560 we have still these conditions. 00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:59.880 You can imagine this was made in the years two thousand which 00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:01.880 is quite a strange picture. 00:34:02.320 --> 00:34:07.360 There's the Chinese market on the street, Chinese market everywhere 00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:13.720 in the in the buildings and the white truck is the the phenomenon 00:34:13.720 --> 00:34:17.680 that there's no, no signage, no inscription. 00:34:17.680 --> 00:34:18.480 What is this? 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.720 They are bringing and taking different goods. 00:34:23.240 --> 00:34:26.040 You can buy everything and everything a lot. 00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:31.240 So if you have buy two pairs of socks, it is a lot and it is it is cheaper. 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:39.000 The third very interesting and positive area is at the South 00:34:39.720 --> 00:34:41.000 gate of the city. 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:47.320 This is Chapel Island and this is a branch of the Danube which 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:55.680 is fortunately logged by guarded by two locks here and on the 00:34:55.680 --> 00:34:56.000 South. 00:34:56.560 --> 00:35:01.960 So this water level doesn't take the the tide and the and the flood 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:02.800 of the Danube. 00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:12.520 So quite a new so called students district can be constructed 00:35:12.520 --> 00:35:17.200 here And this was made the master plan by Snohatad in Norwegian 00:35:17.200 --> 00:35:21.080 Austrian company together with Hungarian France. 00:35:21.600 --> 00:35:27.400 And I think that at the very moment this is one of the most contemporary 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:33.400 and and the best ideal urban pattern which is planned to Budapest. 00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:39.040 But I have to tell you that I don't know who will work on here because 00:35:39.040 --> 00:35:42.680 it was once again a state project and the state project at the 00:35:42.680 --> 00:35:48.080 very moment is abandoned because because of lack of of financial 00:35:48.080 --> 00:35:48.840 sources. 00:35:50.720 --> 00:35:55.560 We were just discussing about the fracturing of the government 00:35:55.560 --> 00:35:58.480 levels in Budapest. 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:03.040 It works like this that I am responsible for the Budapest structural 00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:03.560 plan. 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.680 This is the general plan for the whole city. 00:36:07.240 --> 00:36:11.960 I have twenty three colleagues in the district who are responsible 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.840 for the district building code, absolutely independent from 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:15.240 me. 00:36:15.600 --> 00:36:21.320 But of course they have to to be in the framework of the general 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:22.120 structural plan. 00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:28.000 So what I feel that it is quite a good system that the top down ideas 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.120 are coming from the central municipality of Budapest, but they 00:36:32.120 --> 00:36:37.680 are always filled up with bottom up ideas and bottom up opportunities 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.400 and the presence of the colleagues on the field. 00:36:42.040 --> 00:36:46.200 Unfortunately, sometimes we have exceptional decrees. 00:36:46.200 --> 00:36:53.960 The government decrease is is born in in two days and you read 00:36:53.960 --> 00:37:00.560 in the in the official paper that it is not necessary to take into 00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:06.480 consideration the the local governments plans and development 00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:13.080 ideas because it will work on a on a special road So that's why 00:37:13.080 --> 00:37:17.920 we are afraid a little bit to lose our beloved city scape into 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.000 something different. 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:26.840 But there is a lot to speak about all the system and that's why 00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:32.520 I was interested in the morning to hear about the fragmentation 00:37:32.520 --> 00:37:33.880 of Europe or not. 00:37:35.200 --> 00:37:39.680 What we have that we have the new stadium for the that was the athletic 00:37:40.080 --> 00:37:42.720 World championship in the summer, the Budapest. 00:37:42.720 --> 00:37:50.120 So that's what what has has been made on the side of the Brownfield 00:37:50.120 --> 00:37:54.480 RS Thank you very much for your attention. 00:37:55.040 --> 00:37:59.880 I simply wanted to summarise a little bit the possibilities 00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:04.280 of these areas and to show out that they are in the pipeline. 00:38:04.520 --> 00:38:13.320 But we still need ideas and still need important decisions to 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.040 have a proper approach towards them. 00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:17.200 Thank you very much. 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:46.280 Thank you very much, Sultan. 00:38:51.560 --> 00:38:52.240 Call a nega. 00:38:52.240 --> 00:39:07.840 Move to Edmond Manajasa. 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:23.640 Edmond Manajasa, Professor lorenzo 's the presenter Vanya 00:39:23.640 --> 00:39:44.000 Visi doctor Novel And then 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:49.320 too much the the proposed it's your Money Stitch next to the bullet 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:55.320 to me Fina over me that the two were on the pulos Nego Boulevardo. 00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:10.960 He then another record Tirano and then Jimin for months he ask to. 00:40:14.040 --> 00:40:32.080 Part of the name that's Justine. 00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:43.320 Context. 00:41:11.040 --> 00:41:11.600 Boulevard. 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:34.880 National Boulevard toys post socialist Boulevard rosebud 00:41:36.600 --> 00:41:43.680 we dodge need control of our name and turbo and this is how this 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.040 news. 00:41:49.160 --> 00:41:57.040 I go yeah 'cause via wish master price poster 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:12.080 series station which is a nearby bostonian Chevy to 00:42:12.120 --> 00:42:15.040 trust a quad a yes in. 00:42:43.120 --> 00:42:43.200 I. 00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:06.880 Because we looked at some examples of how competitions 00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.680 are organized this is one example from. 00:43:11.600 --> 00:43:16.160 Union of international architects and practically there are 00:43:16.160 --> 00:43:22.520 two main basis or grounds where one is about the essential principles 00:43:22.520 --> 00:43:25.400 and the other one is the guidelines there are different models 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:32.000 another model is from manus and Ron again architectural quality 00:43:32.120 --> 00:43:35.240 is highly relying on design criterias. 00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:40.880 But different models develop different parameters emphasizing 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:51.240 their role another model was the model of Anderson and others 00:43:51.640 --> 00:43:56.280 following here for example the role of the client becomes quintessential 00:43:58.600 --> 00:44:04.440 but also putting forwards architectural grammar as a new parameter 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:04.840 like. 00:44:06.120 --> 00:44:10.600 Providing the concept of authenticity or readability or materiality 00:44:10.600 --> 00:44:16.640 and time and other things another model again here client requirements 00:44:16.640 --> 00:44:22.840 are also important in fact we provide also another model which 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:28.400 is Chopin ET al but practically we operationalized a bit so we 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.920 looked a bit at our context and we said OK let us establish one 00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:33.600 model in our. 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:40.000 Not on our own practically but we try to utilize those elements 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:47.320 that would be that we could use so certain elements which would 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.640 be very important for us would be design context econicities 00:44:50.640 --> 00:44:53.840 surprise experience feasibility and sustainability in both 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:58.400 physical and social aspects but on the other side elements especially 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.400 regarding the budget are also important. 00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:05.400 In fact turning back to our context this competition culture 00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:08.520 in Albania is pretty new because in the socialist. 00:45:08.520 --> 00:45:13.240 period like many countries so but probably we are the most radical 00:45:13.240 --> 00:45:18.280 one we are highly centralized governed countries so everything 00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:22.920 was decided by the politburo members architects in fact were 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.920 actually run by the architects were controlled very strictly 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.680 by them But starting from two thousand and three there were a 00:45:29.680 --> 00:45:34.880 series of we have to say competitions starting from the city 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:39.600 standard master plan in tirana and it continues like that we 00:45:39.600 --> 00:45:46.320 are going to actually focus on northern boulevard a special 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:50.680 menu of this actually buildings in fact are consequences of 00:45:50.680 --> 00:45:55.840 two thousand and three plan which in fact foresaw by french studio 00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:02.760 it foresaw Emphasizing of main square of Tirana with high rise 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.200 towers and also the main Boulevard of the city spine similarly 00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:14.360 in fact they also so this is actually their vision and this is 00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.120 the north Boulevard practically and the the river there are 00:46:17.120 --> 00:46:20.680 two rivers in fact in Tehran this is Lana river or probably a sort 00:46:20.680 --> 00:46:24.080 of Creek and this is Tirana river and. 00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:29.760 The focus of this presentation that we will see in fact in these 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:36.240 two zones so as a consequence of this French plan we have a lot 00:46:36.240 --> 00:46:41.040 of skyscrapers which in fact emphasize in brackets the city 00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:48.240 line of the main Boulevard and also you can also see these renders. 00:46:51.680 --> 00:46:56.400 It is it have been subject of a lot of discussions debates criticism 00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:00.320 I've also written some papers about issues of identity and etcetera 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:03.720 in Tirana however it will take a lot of time so I need to turn back 00:47:03.720 --> 00:47:10.120 to our main discussion but practically the project or the competition 00:47:10.120 --> 00:47:13.200 area is this zone here already this part is foreseen from the 00:47:13.200 --> 00:47:18.360 French plan but this is the north Boulevard extension beyond 00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:20.960 the LA tiana river and this is the river. 00:47:21.640 --> 00:47:28.400 So in fact Tirana in the peripheral zones is highly actually 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:32.920 characterized by informal developments from one of the hidden 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:38.200 in fact intentions of this project was also formalization of 00:47:38.200 --> 00:47:43.840 the zones by providing and sending new functions which actually 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:48.440 would be both at local but also national level. 00:47:49.160 --> 00:47:52.280 So practically we have the north Boulevard extension beyond 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:57.080 the river and the revitalization and regeneration of the potentials 00:47:57.080 --> 00:48:06.080 of Tirana river here all competition briefing requirements 00:48:06.080 --> 00:48:11.440 are are given in a detailed way but very in broad aspects innovative 00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:15.040 and sustainable solutions regenerations of certain areas 00:48:15.040 --> 00:48:17.080 in development of intervention zones. 00:48:17.560 --> 00:48:20.160 So to create a new urban plan that would improve the lifestyle 00:48:20.160 --> 00:48:23.520 of Tirana citizens sustainable growth of the neighbourhoods 00:48:24.120 --> 00:48:27.160 produce working and living spaces that seed would benefit in 00:48:27.160 --> 00:48:31.080 long term the connection between southern and northern part 00:48:31.080 --> 00:48:37.280 but also between two rivers this was quite serious area fourteen 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:42.800 kilometres which is quite one fourth fourth of the city size 00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:50.480 fourteen kilometres square and It this project would foresee 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:54.640 a new downtown area with the cultural and public units and also 00:48:54.640 --> 00:48:59.440 it could work as a generator for a modern city new national buildings 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:03.160 like National Library concert told modern art Galleria convention 00:49:03.160 --> 00:49:09.440 centres palace of justice new City Hall were foreseen on the 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.560 other side it could also give ground for. 00:49:14.040 --> 00:49:18.840 New infrastructure road construction landscape and also they 00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:23.840 had some sort of budgetary limitations like it should not exceed 00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:27.240 the cost of one hundred one hundred thirty euro meter square 00:49:27.240 --> 00:49:29.800 according to the albanian standards of the period there were 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:35.320 a lot of actually companies international companies who entered 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:40.320 in the competition however they were selected as finalists 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:46.640 only dar which was Company which was based in Lebanon and another 00:49:46.640 --> 00:49:52.880 and Grimshaw which is a well known international English company 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:58.160 so I'm just going to very briefly explain because I know the presentation 00:49:58.160 --> 00:50:01.880 is very long I am limited in terms of time although I'm not very 00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:07.000 bad so far as much as I can realize but it's subjective so this 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:12.240 is actually the final alternative of dar so. 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:21.240 It's called dar El handasa the the company their headquarters 00:50:21.240 --> 00:50:29.000 in Beirut in Lebanon so they provide in fact a linear Boulevard 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.800 practically but in fact they want this part of the city to work 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:37.280 as a new economy for the city so they would develop mixed use units 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.280 and creation of sixteen thousand new homes and twenty thousand 00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:48.520 new jobs They also recognized or they actually put give a name 00:50:48.520 --> 00:50:56.040 to this park called Tirana PLA park plus and they foresee different 00:50:56.040 --> 00:50:59.040 civic and recreational activities and mixed use units at the 00:50:59.040 --> 00:51:06.200 same time and practically this would work as a sort of culture 00:51:06.200 --> 00:51:10.440 heart of the tirana and also connection between two lakes in 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.800 south and north So this is actually the extension so this is the 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:19.480 existing Boulevard that means the from the city center and this 00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:25.960 is their vision about so as you see in fact it strongly aims also 00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:34.840 to formalize quite informal zones of the city providing dynamic 00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:39.000 geometric paths and also. 00:51:40.160 --> 00:51:44.120 On the other side if you look at the Tirana river it also try to 00:51:45.120 --> 00:51:51.040 revitalize the river and provide new actually recreational 00:51:51.560 --> 00:52:04.400 qualities added to the zone so they also focus especially 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:08.760 in the the youth and especially the. 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:14.360 Role of young people because we have a young population as well 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:21.000 and especially they foresaw proposals which actually could 00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:26.240 prevent at some extent they also undertook some sort of social 00:52:26.240 --> 00:52:30.920 responsibility by because we have also high level of migration 00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:35.640 to Western Europe so they could combine. 00:52:36.120 --> 00:52:40.800 Certain solutions which would have close to new university 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:45.640 campus functions or new jobs which actually could work together 00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.600 and in some extent providing some contributions to the economy 00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:00.720 so they also foresaw different creative economy retail economy. 00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:10.520 About the transport and road network in fact they in majority 00:53:10.520 --> 00:53:15.760 focus on sustainable solutions like usage of public transport 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.360 and cycling and pedestrian paths also the other project aim 00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.800 to limit the usage of private automobiles. 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:34.920 Here you see their proposal for the river in fact they try to fragment 00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:40.800 yet in different functions and areas the whole river and also 00:53:41.120 --> 00:53:45.200 the most interesting part is also the connection between the 00:53:45.200 --> 00:53:52.640 river and the sorry and the and the Boulevard where they provide 00:53:52.640 --> 00:53:56.240 this campus which at the same time would provide. 00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:04.360 Would give role to the new generations and different hubs I would 00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:09.600 say recreation park technologies terraces campus already 00:54:09.600 --> 00:54:15.240 technopol so a lot of proposals are relying on research and innovation 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:21.320 potentials ecology park also benefiting? 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:26.520 From the river they propose also as recreational functions 00:54:26.600 --> 00:54:35.000 some pools here we see in an analysis actually which see different 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:43.000 functions which are combined with one so you see retail functions 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.440 civic functions park and they are all combined in the Boulevard. 00:54:50.240 --> 00:54:59.920 And also this extension at the same time is also foresee in five 00:55:02.040 --> 00:55:09.200 we can say hubs so the campus the stage the gardens each of these 00:55:09.200 --> 00:55:17.280 hubs provide this potentials and try to. 00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.440 Elaborate and emphasize the role of gathering and public spaces 00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:26.440 and this mixed use functions on the other side they also try to 00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:30.280 provide solutions for this national scale buildings like town 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:38.120 hall or we had the main train stations for our palace of justice 00:55:40.560 --> 00:55:47.760 Here we see also primary movement corridors including tram 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.920 road pedestrian streets vehicular road principal landscape 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:59.000 features with linear tree lines important especially this 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:06.760 City Hall building which work as a sort of iconic building and 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:08.280 also other. 00:56:10.120 --> 00:56:17.400 Different land use proposals in the upper levels these are some 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:32.770 section perspective we passed faster to Grimshaw so so Grimshaw 00:56:32.850 --> 00:56:38.410 actually focused their presentation because they were strike 00:56:38.410 --> 00:56:41.210 from the high level of sense of community and the. 00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:49.000 I I'll finalize thank you so of Tirana citizens and they actually 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:54.120 propose certain neighbourhoods which would be provided functions 00:56:54.120 --> 00:57:05.680 within a distance of six hundred meters like this diagram they 00:57:05.680 --> 00:57:11.120 also in the boulevard provided Those that they called urban 00:57:11.120 --> 00:57:14.400 living rooms which were retail justice civic governance and 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:22.400 culture and especially one of their intention because as you 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:27.680 see their proposal is highly formalistic so they tend to formalize 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:34.160 this informal zone of Tirana especially through densification 00:57:34.160 --> 00:57:37.120 and provision of new recreational spaces. 00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:45.440 Similarly also for the trans transport the net net transport 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:50.280 solution they also try to benefit from the large ring of the the 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:56.000 crater ring of the city and also this sorry communication with 00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:57.680 this between these two lakes. 00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:04.800 And also they propose at the same time new light rail tramways 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:11.000 and but these are already foreseen in previous National Transportation 00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:17.160 master plans I guess and also probably this is the strongest 00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:21.720 image that we need to so you see that also they put a lot of emphasis 00:58:21.720 --> 00:58:26.680 especially in the river competition and they consider it as. 00:58:27.200 --> 00:58:30.880 four hubs it's also highly liberated at the same time so this 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:41.200 is Expo and technology hub sport and recreation hub so it foresee 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:46.960 a national Olympic centre with separate and elaborated different 00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:53.080 sportive facilities like new national stadium and et cetera. 00:58:53.840 --> 00:59:00.000 And also they try to formalize all this highly informal zone 00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:06.080 of Tirana and also at the same time provide a scenario how to develop 00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:14.720 especially this we I have to say the valley of the river by providing 00:59:14.720 --> 00:59:20.680 different green and greenery solutions and also the extension 00:59:20.680 --> 00:59:21.920 of the Boulevard is. 00:59:23.560 --> 00:59:28.960 Considered through density as a major component for example 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:34.400 here there are commercial civic and cultural creational spaces 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.000 and this is the golden tower the iconic building according to 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:46.440 them in the city core in the CTH the density yes I'm I'm finalizing 00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:51.280 yes OK sorry sorry it looks that I'm speaking for myself. 00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:56.640 And in the city edge as you see the building heights are lower. 01:00:00.120 --> 01:00:11.480 Practically, they also are very concerned, especially on inclusion 01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:22.040 and participation of people in not only the planning processes, 01:00:22.040 --> 01:00:25.680 but at the same time by providing buildings which would give 01:00:25.680 --> 01:00:28.080 this kind of feature. 01:00:29.040 --> 01:00:33.080 So this is actually sort of very fast comparison, but I don't 01:00:33.080 --> 01:00:34.280 think that we have time for that. 01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:37.760 So this is DAR and this is actually Grimshaw. 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:47.120 So from the economicity point of view, this is the Gateway tower, 01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:55.240 which is proposed by DAR and also regional Expo buildings and 01:00:55.240 --> 01:00:56.680 also new national building. 01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:57.920 This is from Grimshaw. 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.880 Grimshaw proposals also Tower of Knowledge, which works also 01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.360 a sort of iconic building. 01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:15.640 Gateway Tower from DAR providing this surprise effect because 01:01:15.640 --> 01:01:21.760 it in fact divide the boulevard and you cannot see what happens 01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:22.360 beyond. 01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:27.520 Yes, yes, I'm finishing, I know it. 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.120 So I'm going very fast. 01:01:30.120 --> 01:01:37.640 But we generated also sort of comparative table by the end, but 01:01:38.520 --> 01:01:41.400 and probably I will not have time to explain one by one. 01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:49.560 But as a result, we can say that in the proposal of DAR, we conducted 01:01:50.120 --> 01:01:54.520 one, we concluded that that's high qualitative build environment 01:01:54.520 --> 01:01:56.920 and good ratio between green and built. 01:01:58.160 --> 01:02:04.840 On the other side in the case of Grimshaw, it's, it's lower the 01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.240 expense from the implementation, but DAR was more expensive 01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:14.240 and practically Grimshaw was a little bit more economic. 01:02:14.600 --> 01:02:17.440 Now there are a lot of details that we have to go, but I don't think 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:18.520 that we have time for that. 01:02:19.520 --> 01:02:22.920 I leave the floor to you to make a comparison, but if somebody 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:26.120 would request also the presentation, they could go through 01:02:26.120 --> 01:02:27.320 the presentation and see. 01:02:28.120 --> 01:02:36.400 Thank you for your thank you very much. 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:43.480 I hope that as well the last presenter who will lead us to Sunny 01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:50.040 Turkey will be disciplined and then we will have some minutes 01:02:50.040 --> 01:02:54.080 to come back to the presentation with our question and comments. 01:02:54.680 --> 01:03:02.680 And this Sunny is bringing Sedal, it was from Amashiya University 01:03:02.680 --> 01:03:03.680 from Turkia. 01:03:04.120 --> 01:03:10.720 Please the floor reserves be close to the microphone because of. 01:03:10.720 --> 01:03:19.320 OK so, OK Hello, hello everyone. 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:21.400 I'm from Turkey. 01:03:21.600 --> 01:03:28.280 I'm a young planner and I will I will share this presentation 01:03:29.200 --> 01:03:33.040 about for local development and strategic plan. 01:03:35.160 --> 01:03:41.760 And Tokat is located in the central Black Sea region and total 01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:51.120 land area about ten thousand square kilometres and Vision vision 01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.840 tokat were sustainable development is achieved by effectively 01:03:58.120 --> 01:04:04.240 authorizing local resources and striving to meet their own 01:04:04.240 --> 01:04:09.480 needs The purpose achieve sustainable development throughout 01:04:09.520 --> 01:04:16.800 the realization of development both quantitatively and quantitatively 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:22.480 throughout central local collaboration, social, economic 01:04:22.520 --> 01:04:24.280 and cultural means. 01:04:25.200 --> 01:04:28.960 The mobilizing local resources throughout Public private 01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:36.200 sector and collaboration and civil social organization to 01:04:36.200 --> 01:04:45.160 enable social party participation and here planning principles 01:04:45.240 --> 01:04:50.920 and this first one balance distribution and second one equality 01:04:51.240 --> 01:04:55.520 source one Cooperation and last one sustainability. 01:04:58.120 --> 01:04:58.400 Sorry. 01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:05.600 And this table is showing to us population projects of Tokat. 01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:12.280 And this the first map twenty twenty twenty two years about for 01:05:12.600 --> 01:05:18.680 population and second one so twenty fifteen years about population 01:05:19.640 --> 01:05:26.000 and current population now about six hundred K so natural population 01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:35.200 incurs a negative about sixty sixty seven K but current and and 01:05:35.640 --> 01:05:41.760 employment and created employment For this I'm going agriculture, 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:47.280 industry and services sectoral and total population brought 01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:55.920 by employment is sixty five K so population the change actually 01:05:56.320 --> 01:06:01.240 twenty twenty two years and twenty fifteen years after employment 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:10.120 just just negative about three three thousand And the strategic 01:06:10.120 --> 01:06:14.080 plan has some goal and strategic. 01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:20.200 This natural environment the the use and creation of renewable 01:06:20.240 --> 01:06:21.320 energy sources. 01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:28.080 The strategy strategy solar energy power plant will will be 01:06:29.680 --> 01:06:35.920 established taking into account protected this area and social 01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:41.000 environment meeting the needs of the community in the context 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:50.360 of Commission the migration and strategy increasing employment, 01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:56.840 employment activists for migration, population and unemployment 01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:06.080 and creating new employment so opportunities this economic 01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:13.680 environment balancing balancing rural, rural and Urban Development. 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:21.840 So strategy by addressing transportation and infrastructure 01:07:23.560 --> 01:07:30.480 deficiencies is rural areas so increasing in investment and 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:35.400 truly areas so physical environment, physical environment 01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:43.640 addressing in for a structure for a structure the deficient 01:07:43.720 --> 01:07:50.760 sense they provide a cool services and reduce the pressure on 01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:53.760 rural areas in settlements. 01:07:53.760 --> 01:08:02.840 Strategy increasing and employment social and cultural infrastructure 01:08:03.680 --> 01:08:12.920 facialities particularly particularly in distribute here 01:08:13.720 --> 01:08:20.320 sub approach for natural environment sub approach here we are 01:08:20.320 --> 01:08:23.160 seeing two maps, so two different maps. 01:08:23.200 --> 01:08:32.240 The first one we know we know the Turkey as an earthquake country 01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:38.960 and also in Tokat this light red line active fault line. 01:08:39.280 --> 01:08:45.680 So for about tokat has a special after strategy plan has this 01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:53.680 master plan so about air kick and also for this area special has 01:08:54.160 --> 01:09:02.680 protected this building system and the soil pollution, water 01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:06.480 pollution and ground pollution, ground pollution. 01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:15.400 So it's coming to actually from agriculture and this, this Polish 01:09:16.320 --> 01:09:25.560 agriculture and this strategic plant sink protected to area 01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:31.520 especially natural park forest and also the farm area. 01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:39.840 So that's why we this project sink this product also from pollution. 01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:45.880 And second one, second one, the renewable energy. 01:09:46.080 --> 01:09:51.120 There is important renewable energy and solar, solar energy, 01:09:51.360 --> 01:09:54.320 wind energy and biogas energy. 01:09:54.720 --> 01:10:06.720 But this biogas energy will be more just a livestock district. 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:16.000 Yes, this physical physical approach. 01:10:17.440 --> 01:10:25.560 There is again two two maps, the first one proposed and second 01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:36.360 one available for current maps and this especially here. 01:10:36.360 --> 01:10:41.680 So train train road is going just for for the street and after 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:50.240 after this strategic plan it will go, it will go city centre and 01:10:50.240 --> 01:11:01.490 also logistic area, a social approach. 01:11:02.290 --> 01:11:07.570 The social approach has healthy healthy services and social 01:11:07.570 --> 01:11:13.130 services, cultural services, services and will develop before, 01:11:13.130 --> 01:11:19.650 before just this developed just in city centre but rural areas, 01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:27.080 so not much, not much develop that's why before that's why so 01:11:27.080 --> 01:11:32.720 suburbia area will have to, will have some services, social 01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:38.800 services and will stop migration and economic, economic approach. 01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:44.000 Agriculture and industry side will balance and will balance 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:52.200 and so they will use resources, resources and also there is and 01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:53.960 and resources. 01:11:54.160 --> 01:11:57.480 This is ecotourism and thermal tourism. 01:11:57.480 --> 01:12:03.080 It will be more using and will develop and also for economics, 01:12:03.200 --> 01:12:10.400 economic approach before nothing and after plan will be logistics 01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:12.720 centre and focus area. 01:12:16.360 --> 01:12:21.600 The main approach here important thing so sectoral corridor 01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:30.160 and so sectoral corridor and especially here agriculture and 01:12:30.200 --> 01:12:35.560 industry will be will be will will continue together so about 01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:40.800 this corridor and cope with cooperation and some cooperation 01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:47.360 about social, education and cultural like with with some community 01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:51.920 and strategic plan. 01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:59.040 The last one is important to relieve the city centre and it will 01:12:59.040 --> 01:13:05.920 reduce traffic and quality of life increase will go up So with 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:13.160 balanced rural area, suburbia area and city central and especially 01:13:13.200 --> 01:13:15.800 for young people better quality of life. 01:13:16.200 --> 01:13:21.560 So rural area with cultural, social and economic standard will go up. 01:13:22.040 --> 01:13:27.960 So by meeting its own needs sustainable will continue. 01:13:29.280 --> 01:13:29.640 Thank you. 01:13:39.080 --> 01:13:39.560 Thank you. 01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:45.760 So with with this presentation we we finished the program concerning 01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:50.560 the presentation, but we want some ten minutes for the questions. 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:57.200 So I I will step here on the side because I cannot see you are welcome 01:13:57.200 --> 01:14:01.960 to formulate your remarks or questions to the presenters. 01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:07.200 Please, we have, we have microphones by it. 01:14:07.400 --> 01:14:12.680 But I was asked that everyone who is speaking should should come here. 01:14:17.080 --> 01:14:19.560 Well, I have a question or you can say comment. 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:22.800 I have a question for my Albania colleague. 01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:25.280 I had an honour to meet with you. 01:14:26.080 --> 01:14:28.840 Yeah, you can until the time the question is going on. 01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:34.800 So you can let's go together there. 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:37.160 I'm not important. 01:14:37.160 --> 01:14:38.440 So I mean I'm. 01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:40.640 I'm always behind the camera. 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:42.360 We can make a compromise. 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:43.120 Yeah, I'm good. 01:14:43.120 --> 01:14:48.200 I think it's easier to be on the camera. 01:14:48.240 --> 01:14:49.800 It's harder to be here. 01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:53.040 Well, since you mentioned about behind, I mean on the camera 01:14:53.040 --> 01:14:57.960 or behind camera, I curated one TV show with your Prime Minister 01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:03.520 Adi Rama and there we had an interaction and he's a very good painter, 01:15:05.480 --> 01:15:08.640 which which he claims I'm not sure about. 01:15:09.160 --> 01:15:13.760 So he was saying and and he was also mayor, three time mayor of 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:14.200 Tirana. 01:15:14.200 --> 01:15:14.560 Yes. 01:15:15.160 --> 01:15:18.040 So he mentioned that, you know, maybe because of, you know, the 01:15:18.040 --> 01:15:22.200 bringing the life in the city of Tirana, he painted the whole 01:15:22.200 --> 01:15:22.640 city. 01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:25.960 You you're speaking about the lecture that he had at Tate Modern? 01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:26.400 No, no. 01:15:26.400 --> 01:15:28.600 I had my personal interaction with him. 01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:30.320 So he had this lecture. 01:15:30.320 --> 01:15:30.520 Solid. 01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:33.400 Tate Modern, Yes. 01:15:33.400 --> 01:15:35.880 But we have this light and it's very highly disturbing. 01:15:36.280 --> 01:15:36.400 Yes. 01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:42.520 So how it was taken by public I just wanted to know this is in fact 01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:45.480 one hundred million dollar question author you're asking so 01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:51.960 practically but he have been as you explained for three mandates 01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:58.440 as mayor of tirana and now is at the same time should be his third 01:15:58.440 --> 01:16:01.400 mandate as prime minister So he's guy. 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:05.160 He has a lot of power practically because it have been gaining 01:16:05.160 --> 01:16:06.320 power time by time. 01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:12.160 He's very good in public communication, you can say very good, 01:16:12.160 --> 01:16:13.800 also public manipulation. 01:16:14.280 --> 01:16:18.920 So but he's also a very colourful guy. 01:16:19.360 --> 01:16:25.400 That means that he's able to transmit artistical tools and means 01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:30.960 in the public and I find him quite successful in this aspect. 01:16:32.080 --> 01:16:35.880 Initially this initiative that he had at the beginning, it was 01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:36.360 called it. 01:16:36.360 --> 01:16:41.200 In fact it's the commencement or department point For my PHD thesis. 01:16:42.360 --> 01:16:46.400 I wrote a P H D C thesis on the issue of urban identity of tirana 01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:51.480 because i felt as an architect that the realm of architecture 01:16:51.480 --> 01:16:57.520 was stolen by artists Artists started to paint our facades and 01:16:57.520 --> 01:16:58.320 etcetera, etcetera. 01:16:58.320 --> 01:17:04.760 And and actually the medium of architects is tectonics is not, 01:17:05.080 --> 01:17:06.720 is not colored practically. 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:12.280 So there was a little bit of difference that it was in some aspect 01:17:12.280 --> 01:17:18.360 it was positive, the initial, the initial or the initiative 01:17:18.360 --> 01:17:23.720 of the beginning to paint the building facades, because it brought 01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:25.480 a sort of sense of hope. 01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:27.760 But they were very superficial. 01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.840 So they did not consider holistic approach. 01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:34.080 So they did not consider thermal comfort. 01:17:34.320 --> 01:17:37.560 They did not consider other aspects of considering, I don't 01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:41.560 know, common outdoor spaces or greeners. 01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:45.480 And it said it was just a sort of makeup, a superficial intervention 01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:51.320 which in my opinion in majority aimed political attention. 01:17:52.360 --> 01:17:57.760 But as the time have passed and he have been in power for approximately 01:17:58.400 --> 01:18:01.800 twenty more than twenty years and he have more and more in his 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:03.040 sense to to do. 01:18:04.360 --> 01:18:08.440 But one thing is positive, which I evaluate is that he brought 01:18:08.440 --> 01:18:14.480 Albania into the centre of probably European debates and discussions 01:18:14.480 --> 01:18:19.160 even with this kind of controversial ideas about the subject 01:18:19.160 --> 01:18:21.560 of urban regeneration, renovations and etcetera. 01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:25.280 And maybe sometimes it's a sort of, you know, Marcel Duchamp. 01:18:25.280 --> 01:18:29.240 So the Fontaine thing with Dada and the dais and groups and etcetera, 01:18:29.400 --> 01:18:34.760 everything that if you are able to provoke actually you, you 01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:39.280 take attention even what you promote and propose is not the best. 01:18:40.240 --> 01:18:45.000 So that would be probably a sort of reaction, replies some at 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:46.320 some some extent, I think. 01:18:47.400 --> 01:18:53.800 Thank you very much some some some other questions to the presenters. 01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.920 I can see the auditorium over there. 01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:59.440 Please share the microphone. 01:18:59.960 --> 01:19:02.880 And then queer name Petania and Thomas Dorakovsky and Petania 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:04.640 the Thomas Dorakovsky. 01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:07.640 I have a question to the London part of the presentation. 01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:08.200 If I may. 01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:14.760 I wanted to focus on the London part and in particular the one 01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:17.920 in which you describe the process, which I think is far from being 01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:18.480 but now. 01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:20.600 And it concerns London. 01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:28.280 But not only London, probably many cities that have desired 01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:30.600 expensive areas in them. 01:19:31.400 --> 01:19:36.200 You describe the process that starts off with a substance back 01:19:36.200 --> 01:19:39.440 in the fifties Then there is certain evaluation of whether there 01:19:39.440 --> 01:19:45.640 is well it has worn out aesthetically or economically or maybe 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:48.320 in thermal terms, I'm not sure. 01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:49.960 Or maybe socially. 01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:53.760 It's been used up because the social group that inhibits this 01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.440 part does is not liked by by by by others. 01:19:57.440 --> 01:19:58.160 I'm not sure. 01:19:58.160 --> 01:20:01.160 Or what kind of how is this evaluation performed? 01:20:01.160 --> 01:20:03.720 I need an answer to this question, but I'm more interested in 01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:05.800 the motto itself if we have a hectare. 01:20:06.200 --> 01:20:12.760 Of of of an area of ground with one thousand flats there And 01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:17.240 then a decision is made to replace this structure with something 01:20:17.240 --> 01:20:19.080 that is twice as dense. 01:20:19.080 --> 01:20:21.280 Well, at least three times or even better. 01:20:21.280 --> 01:20:23.240 OK let's stick to three times as dense. 01:20:23.240 --> 01:20:26.480 So we had one thousand We are supposed to have three thousand flats. 01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:29.240 This one hectare. 01:20:29.360 --> 01:20:33.240 Regardless of the rationality of the ratio, let's say that this 01:20:33.440 --> 01:20:38.880 community that lives there, well, it has to, it has to move right 01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:42.040 or it has to be made less dense. 01:20:42.040 --> 01:20:45.000 I suppose that their economic power is poor. 01:20:45.240 --> 01:20:49.720 They make ends, meet, ends meet, because over those forty or 01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:53.560 sixty years, the process has been intense enough. 01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:58.800 So the let's say the value of the ground has exceeded their expectations 01:20:58.800 --> 01:20:59.520 and assumptions. 01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:01.440 I'm talking here about the planning aspect. 01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:05.160 Let's stick to twenty five percent not nine percent But let's 01:21:05.160 --> 01:21:11.800 say the twenty five percent is supposed to be the social flat 01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:14.560 So we have a new structure. 01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:18.160 If we have three times and then twenty five south twenty five 01:21:18.160 --> 01:21:23.720 percent of the inhabitants will actually had to leave right 01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:31.800 So it all boils down to the community being well decimated in 01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:32.280 a way. 01:21:32.280 --> 01:21:34.680 So who Who gains who? 01:21:35.080 --> 01:21:37.440 Whose benefit are we talking about here? 01:21:37.440 --> 01:21:42.880 Well, as you can imagine, the answer is going to be complex. 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:50.560 First of all, it is not a city that is responsible for the execution 01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:53.520 of that, but a giving housing cooperative. 01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:56.040 It can belong to the city on or not. 01:21:56.040 --> 01:21:56.600 It can be. 01:21:56.600 --> 01:21:58.400 It can be independent of the city. 01:21:58.400 --> 01:21:59.240 That's one thing. 01:21:59.960 --> 01:22:05.440 Secondly, the ratio is at least thirty five percent to fifty 01:22:05.440 --> 01:22:11.560 percent In the case of investments, it's public ground. 01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:16.120 So those that were obtained from the public resources. 01:22:16.120 --> 01:22:21.600 Now those ratio thirty five to fifty that concerns the surplus, 01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:26.920 which means that it is an obligation of a given housing cooperative 01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.960 that usually gets in touch with the developer to first of all 01:22:31.040 --> 01:22:38.480 recreate the number of flats that are available 01:22:39.480 --> 01:22:44.760 at present and then on top of that additionally provide thirty 01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:49.600 five percent more So that means that this well this community 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:51.160 is in the minority. 01:22:51.280 --> 01:22:56.080 But via referendum each of them has a chance to have a say and each 01:22:56.080 --> 01:23:02.640 of them gets an offer from the housing cooperative. 01:23:03.360 --> 01:23:05.480 And they have a choice. 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:07.560 They can either stay. 01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:12.120 When there is a referendum, clear conditions are defined. 01:23:14.480 --> 01:23:20.040 Every housing cooperative tries now to guarantee a minor, only 01:23:20.040 --> 01:23:26.800 a minor increase in the rent costs, the basic rent and 01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:33.560 quite favorable conditions for the inhabitants that already 01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:34.320 live there. 01:23:34.320 --> 01:23:36.880 So they get an incentive to stay. 01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:43.320 But as a result of this heightened density, of course, this original 01:23:43.320 --> 01:23:46.000 community then turns into a minority. 01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.520 These kinds of endeavours are carried out by housing cooperatives, 01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:01.480 so by the units that not only are developers, but that also later 01:24:01.480 --> 01:24:03.280 manage those housing estates. 01:24:04.280 --> 01:24:13.680 And so it is in their interest to ensure the coexistence 01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:17.480 of the old and the new community and their cooperation. 01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:23.760 Well, the assumption is that there is always an influx of the 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:31.000 new community that is the non privileged one and that 01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:32.440 inhibits the new flats. 01:24:32.440 --> 01:24:36.920 Of course this is very difficult but well we've we've been struggling 01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:38.080 to to make it happen. 01:24:42.280 --> 01:24:49.280 The our time was already very useful spent for this session 01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:55.120 and we can continue our discussions during the break, the coffee 01:24:55.120 --> 01:24:55.560 break. 01:24:55.560 --> 01:25:01.920 So please be disciplined and return back at four o'clock Thank 01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:03.240 you very much for your attention.